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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. MoneyWellSpent

    MoneyWellSpent Senior member

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    There are no words for that Amazon review... [​IMG]
     
  2. zbix

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    It could be a matter of precedence. Wikipedia says that the Brannock device prototype was patented in 1926. Alden was already in existence at this point. Whether or not they utilized the same lasts that far back is another matter though.
     
  3. BeSpiffington

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    I actually heard my GF telling her BGF that I was texting "my little friends" on a website devoted to shoes, OMG, and they were talking about a guy who got, wait for it, a scuffed shoe. (Insert maniacal female cackling here). Great job on your shoes sazon! You never know what you might have to do to make money.
     
  4. virilio

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    Hi gang. First post here and a weird question...

    I have a pair plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando from Leffot/Alden that fit me perfectly in 8E even though they have just started to break in. Best shoes ever owned. Especially that...:

    I also have a pair of the AF43 (plain toe boots on Trubalance/cordovan/commando) in the same size that, after a year and especially after wearing the above shoes, don't fit me well. In short the heel is shaped differently and because the Trubalance are wider my foot uncomfortably places itself towards the front of the shoe after a while.

    Adam from Alden of Carmel is [​IMG]refusing me to sell me the AF89 (plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin/commando) in 8E because he says that if the Trubalance (cordovan) don't fit me in 8E there is no way the Barrie (calfskin) will fit me in 8E.

    "We believe the problem is you want to avoid wearing a larger size, so you are requesting a size that is too small. You won’t be happy with size 8 1/2 E, and you are not happy with size 8 E because it is too tight. You will not be happy with any size we send."

    WTF? Is it inconceivable that Barrie and Trubalance fit someone differently and that "bigger" doesn't necessarily mean better? 8.5 is way too big for me in Barrie/Trubalance.


    And where else can I purchase Barrie/calfskin plain toe boots... in 8E...? I don't mind getting on a waiting list... as much as I need black shoes, and I already have chromexel, I would contemplate different colors...

    It's a weird situation that I don't entirely get myself and to be frank I am a bit annoyed.
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  5. Bakes11771

    Bakes11771 Senior member

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    This is kind of mind-blowing. Not sure if he is doing you a favor, or a disservice. I wonder who "we" is?
     
  6. blue collar

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    So it's not just me who has to deal with this on a daily basis :confused:

    We are apparently "...very cute posting pictures of our shoes for our daily show-and-tell"
     
  7. Don L

    Don L Senior member

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    Your signature quote says it all.....
     
  8. Alcibiades

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    The one exception is the Leffot saddles which really requires an antique edge - but I don't know if I consider it a "color 8 shoe"
     
  9. Alcibiades

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    1) Are you saying the Trubalance boots are in effect too big? Barrie boots fit tighter than Trubalance boots, so it makes sense that 8E in Barrie would fit you better than 8E in Trubalance.

    2) Some retailers are sensitive to sending wrong sizes and getting shoes returned. From what I have seen, AoC is among the most sensitive to this issue, so it is not really surprising they are hesitant to sell you the shoe.

    3. Alden NYC / Alden DC / Alden SF should all have various models in 8E available. Not sure if they will have exactly what you want. Leffot and Context will let you preorder 8E.
     
  10. tifosi

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    Amazing how I came up with a logic to convince myself to buy more shell, huh??? Shocking.
     
  11. tifosi

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    I agree. If an 8E fits you well in Barrie, then I could see the same size in Trubalance AND in cordovan being a bit larger. 2 shoes on the same last, one in calf and one on cordovan will fit differently. Cordovan being slightly larger.
     
  12. Mr. Moo

    Mr. Moo Senior member

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    :lol: Adam at Alden of Carmel is one of the best Alden reseller trolls around. He is in a league of his own.
     
  13. jacob6221

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    Hi, this is my first post.

    I recently picked up a pair of burgundy bluchers 2nds from the Shoemart. They were made on the modified last. I fit really well in a 9D in my 403 Indy boot but I knew the Barrie last wasn't for me because I needed a deeper heel cup since I have custom orthotics. I ordered a 9D in the modified last but I think they might be a half size too big. Unfortunately I also think that I have too much vamp crease to return them. In any case, here they are: I really like them, and I can barely notice the defect, which only appears to be a small mark on the side of the shoe that is completely unnoticeable while standing.

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  14. virilio

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    @Alcibiades

    The question is why would the Leffot PT Boots/Barrie/calfskin/commando fit differently than the AF89/Barrie/calfskin/commando in the same size?

    If there's some factor I am not aware of, I would like to know, because these Barrie/calfskin/commando/8E I'm wearing are damn perfect.

    I'll try to answer your question, but 'tighter' is going to be tighter on each person's foot differently...

    Both the Barrie and Trubalance fit me but:

    1) the Barrie heel is more pronounced apparently, it makes my foot sit further back, and the shoe (not the sole but the shoe) is something like 1/4" longer or a bit less
    2) the toe area of the Barrie is more bulbous and my toes are not cramped, whereas the more rounded shape of the Trubalance with my feet sitting more forward feels claustrophobic
    3) the cordovan of the Trubalance makes this intolerable

    In retrospect I would have passed on the AF43 or gotten them in 8.5E would have to wear them with thick socks, but that's because of the cordovan.
    I think it's completely wrong of Adam of Carmel and his high horse that helps him write his emails to assume I don't know what the hell I'm talking about and took these $600 decisions lightly.

    I already talked to Alden NYC, but black plain toe boots in Barrie/calfskin are going to be hard to come by anywhere. I don't want cap toes, cordovan or Indy.

    Thanks for reading.
     
  15. Alcibiades

    Alcibiades Senior member

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    virilio,

    I understand your frustration. I have not heard of a fit difference between calfskin boots and chromexcel boots in th same last. They should fit very similar in 8E.

    You know your fit better than anyone else... If you really want the shoes, you could offer to buy them from AoC on a "no refunds allowed" basis, but it is unfortunate you even have to go there.
     
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  16. rydenfan

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    AoC I believe is store credit only (under the best of circumstances)
     
  17. virilio

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    I know what you are saying with Trubalance > Barrie and with Cordovan > Calf ceteris paribus. I was WORRIED when I ordered the Barrie/calfskin in the same size, knowing the tight fit of the AF43/Trubalance/cordovan, but that was after trying them, so I listened to my feet, not my head, and that was the right thing to do. Anyway.
     
  18. virilio

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    I already offered him to waive my option to return the shoes, based on the fact that I am wearing basically the same shoes in a different colour...

    "We prefer not to send shoes out when we believe they will not fit, or when we believe it will lead to future problems."

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  19. ironclad

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    Thanks Sazon. These are the Brixtons from Epaulet.

    I also pre-ordered LeatherSoul's #8 Pitt boots with antique edge. Not sure when those babies will arrive.
     
  20. CEE88

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    Congrats tifosi! They look great. How do they fit? I've had mine for a month or so, and they are probably my best fitting shoe/boot. If I was traveling to Europe for a month and could only take one pair of shoes/boots (to walk6-7 hours a day through museums and over cobble stone streets), it would be my color 8 Indys.
     
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