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Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. bespoken pa

    bespoken pa Senior member

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    I was joking about the lobbs, when I saw them I couldn't believe it. I could have 22 pairs of Alden shell or one pair of lobbs? Or perhaps 5 pairs of eg top drawer with 5 pairs of shell Aldens.
     


  2. ThArtOfWardrobe

    ThArtOfWardrobe Senior member

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    I would go color 8 longwing. I wear jeans most days and it works well with them. You can't go wrong with boots either. Good luck!
     


  3. Alcibiades

    Alcibiades Senior member

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    A boot like a color 8 indy on double leather soles will be noticeably heavier than a boot like the 405 on Alden's commando soles (EDIT - the regular Indy boots are pretty heavy due to the cork sole)
     
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    shaunw Senior member

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    If I could go back and do it again I would start with a #8 or cigar cordovan indy boot. Cordovan boots will not be heavier than regular leathers. It may actually be lighter in weight.
     


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    mexicutioner Senior member

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    yeah i think the #8 barrie LWB/WTB looks most at home with casual wool pants (not smooth worsteds) or chinos. too much more casual or dressy than that (such as jeans or a business suit) and it starts to look incongruous. i think it can work with jeans, but it needs to be a pretty dress outfit. super dark jeans, no streaks or fades. no untucked shirts. preferably a sport jacket. i do that look pretty often with my #8 WTB's, but i just feel the same outfit with a less dressy-looking shoe (such as a ravello or suede WTB or a #8 PTB) would look a bit more balanced.

    for background, i haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate seeing dudes wear jeans with dressy looking shoes such as black balmorals. jeans are the most workwear of pants that men can wear (aside from paint-stained overalls) so to me, the shoes worn with jeans shouldn't look dressy. like how you would never wear a tuxedo jacket with floral-print swim tunks. everything has to be from the same level of dressiness.
     
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    jkater1 Senior member

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    Do you like the #4 captoe better than the #4 wingtip boot?
     


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    Alpina Senior member

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    Good god, brother—wear them! Patina trumps pristine every time.
     


  8. bespoken pa

    bespoken pa Senior member

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    +1 I understand your desire to maintain them however (this is easy to say as I'm not the owner). Please share them with the world. Those boots were meant to shine brilliantly in this cold world, if it's bit much I apologize lol.
     


  9. FrankCowperwood

    FrankCowperwood Senior member

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    Thanks, you've had something of corner on the LHS photos recently. And PGH is right. Maybe I should start referring to them that way. Pretend they are some super rare #8 LHS: Only available in PGH!


    I do think the shell Indy will be heavier, though that is because of the double leather sole, not the shell cordovan itself IMO. Something with a single leather sole would be good for less weight, though I don't think you'll find a boot that way (other than on the Modified last, which is impossible or very expensive to find in shell). Single leather sole shoe makeups are more formal in general. The exception that comes to mind immediately is the #8 unlined LHS from Brooks Brothers.
     


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    Yes, Captoes win out.


    Excellent point!


    Cold, cruel world, meet my #4 Captoes. Can't we all just get along and wear better shoes?
     
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  11. Gcbrown3

    Gcbrown3 Well-Known Member

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    She's too smart for me.

    The Ravello's gotta go for an actual price.

    Anybody have a new 8.5. Whiskey LWB Barrie w/ leather soul?

    Like somebody who posted yesterday, I've found that all of my Barrie Boots fit me perfectly in a 9, but my LWB in Barrie fit much better in an 8.5.. I've made some adjustments to many, but am just going straight 8.5 in Barrie going forward.

    Alden, as a company, is just getting arrogant and dictatorial. Cordovan shortage has somehow made them able to adjust the threshold on what becomes a second as opposed to a first quality shoe.

    While I'm venting, I ordered a Whiskey LWB in 9D from Alden SF. They would have completed the so called LWB rainbow. Anyway, I took them out of the box and they had the deepest scratch in the right vamp and I could tell that I was the first person who had received this pair and I pride myself iin my ability to take out even deep scratched this wasn't going anywhere.

    I called Alden Massachussetts and spoke to them and they said that they'd get a new pair out to the San Fran store. A promise which seemed illusory. The Alden (MA) people, or probably better to say person, said that it must have slipped by their QC. Anyway, I call Alden San Fran to tell them this and they tell me, to make it simple, "NO." They then told me that those shoes are going back into inventory and will be sold to another consumer. This, after they admitted to having dried to take the scratch out with no luck. The shoes with tax were around $795. I called them and asked them if they could call me if an 8.5 got returned in light of this. I had been on the wait list for the scratched shoe, blah, blah, yadda, yadda. They told me that I would get the first 8.5 returned.

    So yesterday, I look on the website and an 8.5 has been returned. I call the store to inquire only to be told, we're so sorry, but we sold it. I didn't give them a hard time, because it would have served no purpose. The damage was done.

    anyway, the same week I received a #8 Brixton Boot from Epaulet with one of those upper bubbles where the lining isn't flush to the shell on the upper and so they get a bubble, which in time becomes either awful creasing or torn seams.

    i hate to start too many sentences with "anyway",

    Anyway, Alden's quality, as a collector with 21 pairs of shell, has gone to shit. What used to be seconds get sent to retailers and even resold by Aldem themselves after a clear defect is pointed out. Epaulet excused it as Alden being Alden and Alden SF said, "those shells are so rare that people will still pay full retail for them, so they're going back on the shelves."

    It appears that these days, defects need to be real botched shoes, shells are much darker with imperfections now appearing in black and # 8. It's disheartening. I find that I've probably paid an extra $500 this year just on returned shipping.

    At the same time, the Wolverine 744 that I alerted the thread to because they were on sale on ebay in all sizes for $532 from $750 arrived and they were so beautiful and well crafted. Nowadays, most Alden boots have that place with the tongue connects to the boot and it looks like it's either unfinished or poorly made ( you can see it on all the J. Crew #8 PCT Boot as the as the Black PCT shell boot from the Molded Shoe in NYC).

    I thought that I'd vent. On a different note, I do have a Ravello Chukka an the J. Crew Ravello LWB in 9D and I got caught so, unless these super bids materialize, they'll be a couple great shoes in the market place.

    if you have any 8.5 Barrie LWB in Whiskey or Ravello or at boots in 9D, I'd be open for a trade if they're new like mine. Mine haven't even been tried on as you guys pointed out.

    we might have to take action. Maybe a salt march to the Alden factory:)
     


  12. Gcbrown3

    Gcbrown3 Well-Known Member

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    Wow that was long.....Sorry!
     


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    This is actually tempting with spring around the corner (actually feels like summer is already here in FL today). Which last are these on?
     


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    Thanks for the advice, I'll continue wearing them on carpet. I have a narrower heel and it is very loose in the larger lasts if I size down to take care of the slight difference.
     


  15. rydenfan

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    I completely agree with you. I kept the Ravello chukkas I ordered because I felt they are quite tough to get and I could live the mark on them, but I do not feel that it should have existed for a $700 shoe
     


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