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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. phototristan

    phototristan Senior member

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    I personally don't consider anything other than the 405 the Indy Boot, but that's just me, I'm a purist for the original.
     
  2. El Argentino

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    Agreed. Shape is all "off."

    Can't believe I'm dissing the plaza, but yes.
     
  3. Beatlegeuse

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    A lot of people here said their unlined suede chukkas stretched a lot, but that was not really the case for me. I tried a 12C and they were uncomfortably tight, so I exchanged them for a 12.5C and couldn't be happier with the fit now.
     
  4. closerlook

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    well, don't get me wrong. its a great looking boot! but its not an indy. though this contradicts my statement, there is a reason the chemist boot was called such and the cigar version of the chemist boot on the fransboone site is called something like a moc toe work boot: they aren't indy boots.
    though all of these are totally awesome.
    i think the cigar version rivals the tanker in awesomeness.
     
  5. ReppTiePrepster

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    "Surpass the US" at what? And what do you mean by "lead" without original ideas? Lead at what?

    As I recall, Samuel Slater ripped off British factory plans and textile technology and initiated an American version of industrialization. Alexander Hamilton essentially took the British banking system and employed it to initiate a modern American economic system.

    Silk and porcelain were of Chinese origins centuries ago. Both were "borrowed" by Europeans, but their reproductions have never been quite the same. For more than 2,000 years the world including the West, has been studying Sun Tzu's The Art of War.

    If you really want to delve further, Legalism, Taoism, Buddhism, Civil Service Examination System, paper money, the check/certificates of deposit, standardized system of measurements, the flame thrower, the compass, iron technology, the ship's rudder, stirrups, hot air balloons, decimal numbers. etc... I could go on with this, all have come from China.

    While I'm not happy with debt we have amassed to China or the possibility that the Chinese may be hoarding all the sources of shell, I am comfortable in saying that the Chinese have made enormous "original" contributions to civilizations across the world over thousands of years.

    Sorry for the rant, but I had to respond. [​IMG]
     
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  6. MrDV

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    thank you argentino
    thanks sir, plenty of grass here in southern california
     
  7. phorm

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    Placed the order for these from Frans Boone on Tuesday and received them two days later. No customs charges--the box was marked as U.S. goods. No complaints here, only praise.

    Sorry about the indoor lighting, but I'm not usually home when the sun is out. :)

    [​IMG]
     
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    i didn't find that the suede stretched much, but because it's it unlined it is more forgiving.
     
  9. sqroot3

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    That's pretty damn fast...ridiculous
     
  10. sevenfoldtieguy

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    I have one indy - on the TruB last in black shell. I like it, but, I probably wouldn't consider another indy unless it was the ravello indy (or whatever you wish to call it) from Frans Boone on the Plaza. Great boot!!

    Some would argue the 403 and 405 belong on a construction site and nowhere else.
     
  11. sevenfoldtieguy

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    100% disagree. I like the shape.
     
  12. sevenfoldtieguy

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    Nice boots, and great service.
     
  13. El Argentino

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    Shape for calling it an Indy only.

    Don't get me wrong, it's a beautiful, worthy-of-envy boot.
     
  14. jimney

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    Don't those all predate the existence of the US?
     
  15. Distorbiant

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    Is the Trubalance in "D" width a naturally wide width?


    I have 12.5 length, pronated feet and wear a 13E in Allen Edmonds Strands/Park Ave last. Would a 12D Trubalance fit me?
     
  16. trig

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    I'm going to guess a 13D would suit you. The AE Strand is on the 5-65 last which I need a 7E on. i've tried a 7.5D on the trubalance before, fit comfortably width wise but just a little long.
     
  17. Countingsheep

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    Gorgeous. Enjoy them
     
  18. Alcibiades

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    The plaza lasted Indy makes the boot very sleek, which I guess some people see as the opposite of the Indy aesthetic. To me they are kind of rugged but handsome boots to be worn with denim or chinos (I won't call them "work boots" because dudes aren't constructing buildings or in a factory in their $750 cordovan Indy boots). IMO the ravello Indy just looks like a sleek NST boot without the split toe stitch (which is a great boot, just kind of odd for an Indy).. Indy boots (whatever the leather) look more appealing to me in the Trubalance last (I even think the Barrie versions look a bit too narrow sometimes). The best Indy I have seen is the cigar version on commando soles, followed by the 404/403/natty versions and then the whiskey versions. I don't recall ever seeing a ravello Indy on Trublanace (same thing with a whiskey wingtip boot, I don't think it has ever been made).

    The tanker boot is a happy medium (rugged but somewhat sleeker than an Indy due to the Barrie last and split toe stitching)
     
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  19. Gcbrown3

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    HHe anybody noticed that you can no longer order cordovan shell from THE SHOE MART wesite?
     
  20. Alcibiades

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    I still see cordovan models available and addable to a shopping cart
     
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