***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

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  1. rick

    rick Senior member

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    How does the two lasts differ?
    I checked here but they did not list the grant last for comparison.


    for me the grant does not have as much room in the toe box as the barrie, which in barrie i am a 10.5d so i have tried 10.5d in grant to tight 10.5e not right and 11d not right. i think that my foot just does not work well with grant, but if you really like them i would call tom at leathersoul and ask him what he thinks. good luck.
     


  2. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    More narrow than the Barrie.

    Damn, that means I'm out. I already wear an 8E/EE in the Barrie/Trubalance last. Sucks because I have been looking/waiting for a regular calfskin captoe boots for about 1-2 years now (I was actually looking for one with rubber/dainite sole but I would have made this work) and I thought this might be it.

    The search continues...
     


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    makewayhomer Senior member

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    I also don't want to create another AE vs Alden debate, however I think it is appropriate to say here that the number of effed up boots posted in the last few months is worrisome - especially considering that Alden is a relatively low volume producer. for someone charging a decent amount of money for shoes - essentially on par with C&J right now - I don't think we should be seeing so many faulty boots and people reporting problems. Granted there isn't a catch all AE thread, but you don't seem to hear about it as much. There is an RM Williams thread, and you don't see it there.

    I guess I'm just saying that given the price, and recent # of problems, I would be hesitant to jump on Aldens right now
     


  4. slappy

    slappy Senior member

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    The price seems a bit high, I seem to recall Aldens being much cheaper in the past. Maybe not though.
     


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    RFX45 Senior member

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    The problem is a bit blown out of proportion though. How many problematic Aldens are out there compared to good ones? How many satisfied customer are there compared to unsatisfied ones? Most of the time, people just remember what a brand does wrong and that is what sticks into their minds while the positives are forgotten, at least to those that reads and have not experienced it first hand. I've seen this happen to many companies, not just shoes but clothes, watch, cars, etc...

    No one company is perfect but from what I've read, Alden seems to fix the problem without much of a hassle. Some may get fixed right away while the other doesn't, but overall I believe they do try and sort out the problem.

    Even with the problems Alden have been having, I still not see a reason to warrant bringing another brand to the Official Alden thread just because they are "better." I am pretty sure there have been plenty of complaints about AE too, I'm just not familiar with it because I never looked.

    But hey, thats just me.
     


  6. slappy

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    Just to add, I didnt bring AE into the thread to discuss which was better. I merely pointed out that the AE boots were significantly cheaper, and as I understood it, the quality was roughly the same. Just like: http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/ca...734cat23080743 Similar looking to, http://www.jcrew.com/AST/Browse/Mens...8428/18428.jsp Obviously there are clear differences, however I think the price increase to an Alden is not worth it for minimally better looking styling, I just wanted to get others opinions. I brought up AE and other companies because frankly I felt starting a whole new thread on the subject to be silly.
     


  7. bananananana

    bananananana In Time Out

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    Price has nothing to do with quality or style or anything. It's all about demand. If Alden can sell their stuff at full price plus backlogs, then it makes business sense for them to raise their prices.

    AE and Red Wing have to allow discount retailers like shoebuy and endless to sell their stuff constantly at 30%+ off retail and still won't get the demand to overweigh supply like Alden.
     


  8. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Just to add, I didnt bring AE into the thread to discuss which was better. I merely pointed out that the AE boots were significantly cheaper, and as I understood it, the quality was roughly the same.

    Just like: http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/ca...734cat23080743

    Similar looking to, http://www.jcrew.com/AST/Browse/Mens...8428/18428.jsp


    Obviously there are clear differences, however I think the price increase to an Alden is not worth it for minimally better looking styling, I just wanted to get others opinions. I brought up AE and other companies because frankly I felt starting a whole new thread on the subject to be silly.


    I can honestly say the quality of Aldens is much better than the RW. Most RWs I've seen has a rough finish and comfort-wise, Alden doesn't need breaking in for the most part. You also have to pay for the style and design, and with the comparison you used, the name JCrew as well. That same $450 JCrew Indy can be had for around $370 w/o the JCrew name.

    But back to the style, I noticed that not many boots out there has the Indy look and style. I often wondered if Alden has a patent to it because the only other boot that compares to Indys design is the APC boot from a few seasons ago. I think many shoe makers could sell a lot of boots if they copied the Indy style, especially if they sell it for a fraction of what Indy charges.
     


  9. slappy

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    @bananananana
    Alden can do whatever Alden wants, who said otherwise?
     


  10. slappy

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    So the leather is inferior on the RW to the Aldens? Ive never felt any RW boots unfortunately, Ill try and rectify that later on today. As for styling, the RW and Alden I posted are similar to the point of me thinking that one probably copied the other.
     


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    ^The kudu that was in the other pic is the Ultimate Indy in Kudu from LS. The pic you posted is the standard Indy from Alden in Kudu.

    correct. mine are the Leathersoul Ultimate Indy in Kudu. commando sole
     


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    So the leather is inferior on the RW to the Aldens? Ive never felt any RW boots unfortunately, Ill try and rectify that later on today. As for styling, the RW and Alden I posted are similar to the point of me thinking that one probably copied the other.
    Trust me, they are complete opposite, well not complete opposite but there is a big difference between the two. The Alden is a bit more refined while RW is more of a workwear, rough on the edges and just isn't the same. RW also has a much more bulbous toe and while the Indy is more low profile and slick. I guess it would depend on your style but if you hold the Aldens and RW in your hands at the same time, you will see a big difference and you might just pay the extra $100 and get the Alden over the RW.
     


  13. slappy

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    Alright thanks for the advice. I plan on checking the RW's out today. Unfortunately I live in San Diego and as far as Im aware there are no stores that carry Aldens, though Ill investigate that today also. Does the JCrew store carry these?
     


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    No, the only J Crew store that carries the Indys are the one in NY.
     


  15. bananananana

    bananananana In Time Out

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    Alden can do whatever Alden wants, who said otherwise?


    Because you're asking if the price premium is worth it for a "minimally" better styling. The answer is just whatever your preference is. But you're asking on an Alden thread, with Alden buyers who've already answered that question with their actions. And from a wider pov, it's clear a lot of people think it's worth it due to the increasing demand despite rising costs.

    Also, I'm pretty sure both RW and Alden both get their leathers from Horween. I've seen examples of both Alden and RW and just the leather quality is about the same imo. They're very different boots though. RW's are much more substantial and heavier, longer break-in periods like the prev poster said, and less options for sizing. I don't like the overly bulbous toes on RWs which are an absolute deal killer. I don't see how you can look at the toes on both RWs and Aldens and just consider as "minimal". Construction seems better on the Alden, more attention to details, and overall just a better looking last/shape to the shoe.

    Those AE boots you posted earlier are again very ugly. Looks like Rockport or Ecco boots with the two tone leather. However, AE is going to have some better looking boots coming out. Search AAAC for some better pics of them. Not sure when they come out but as dress boots, they looked pretty appealing to me.
     


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