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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. docalden2013

    docalden2013 Senior member

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    I'm hoping my baccalaureate education in all things Alden can continue. This time, I'm attempting to stave off my preoccupation about yesterday's whiskey shell LHS purchase by contemplating the purchase of a pair of chukkas. I haven't owned chukkas, but get the sense they would complement my collection, which leans more toward short- and longwing bluchers, a couple of bals, an indy boot, a shell #8 cap toe boot, some chelsea boots and a partridge in a pear tree. I have a few questions and am hoping various folks might be able to shed some light on my chukka ignorance. I'll start with general questions and try to get more specific:

    First of all, what are the general indications for the wearing of a chukka boot? I recall seeing a recent post in which a dapper gentleman paired ravello chukkas nicely with a navy (IIRC) suit. He might be much cooler than I, so not sure if this is a less common example of chukka usage. I'm assuming jeans, cords and chinos are a go. Sportcoat or blazer ok? No socks? Shorts? Or would the latter be J.Crew-trying-too-hard...? Another way I'm thinking about this question in light of the recent attempt at the LHS: is there too much overlap between the LHS and chukka domains?

    Next question: if chukka, then which type of chukka (yes, I know, it could be like Pokemon: gotta catch 'em all) if only restricted to one. My initial leaning is to go suede to provide a nice counterbalance to a lineup of mostly regular calf, CXL, and shell 8. I have recently bought, but have not yet found occasion to wear the J Crew LWB in snuff suede (which I am proud to report I got at a 25% discount on) due to east coast ugly weather as of late. Given the JCrew suede LWB, is a suede chukka competing for the same weather days or is it different enough formality-wise to justify getting another suede shoe?

    If suede, then which one? Dark brown, medium brown or snuff? I was thinking medium, but am open to being dissuaded based on your experiences...

    If not suede, do you guys ever find the shells too formal for a chukka? Why not just go with a shell blucher or bal-type shoe? Similarly, how do you guys wear your calfskin chukkas?

    Another way I'm thinking about this is by addressing the issue of which last to buy. My scan of the various retailers basically revealed that there are barries, leydons and a plaza (via JGilbert IIRC). I like my barrie-lasted LWBs, but I know I tend to rely on tying the laces tighter toward the back of the shoe to prevent my ankle slipping out of my 8.5Ds. Can anyone confirm that one wouldn't have as much of this luxury in a barrie-lasted chukka given you only have two pairs of eyelets instead of 5? Does anyone suggest the Leydons because of the sleekness factor? Or do you say Leydon because you like the flex welt? Btw, how are you guys sizing the Leydon? If I'm a 9D Grant and and 8.5 Barrie, am I staying TTS for Leydon? Changing widths?

    Lined or unlined? Lastly, does anyone own a commando-soled chukka? The UnionMade shell 8 chukkas seemed interesting with the commandos, but I wasn't sure if it was too tough-looking a shoe to wear with lighter fabrics in the summer (e.g., a linen suit, lightweight summer chinos, etc).

    Sorry for the long post. You guys have created a monster...
     
  2. docalden2013

    docalden2013 Senior member

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    I'm hoping you guys can help me keep things simple. Having bought a bunch of these shoes recently, I'd like to get a kit set up to start maintaining these shoes properly from the get-go. Yes, I've done my reading on Uncle's method and have tried to wade through all gazillion pages of the official shoe care thread. I've spent a couple hours on the Hanger Project, but I'm now in system overload and trying to make sure I get the right starter kit:

    Here's some of what I have or I'm planning to buy. Please let me know what I should add or subtract:

    - Alden leather defender - when exactly do you use this? Some guys say pretreat all shoes with it. Other guys spritz just before going out on a cloudy day. Can I just use a spray "waterproofer" from a regular store?

    -Saphir Renovateur. A sure thing. Question is: how many units should I buy (esp knowing my wife is going to hit me up to maintain her Frye boots as well).

    - Alden shoe paste - do I need all 3 (i.e., tan, brown and black)? I have brown CXL indys and LWBs, a couple color 8s and hopefully, a whiskey shell LHS.

    - is the boot paste I've seen on some sites necessary or at all different from the shoe paste?

    - cordovan polish - some say yes, Mac seems to remind us to keep it simple and use paste wax sparingly. My instinct says just default to the Mac method...The shoe care thread guys sometimes say otherwise when it comes to shell

    - Saphir polishes - do I need cream AND wax? or just one? (there's a line in Coming to America that McDowell says to Eddie Murphy's character as he condescendingly supervises the Prince of Zamunda's mopping of the floor- "don't use the bucket, it'll just confuse you...")

    - renomat leather cleaner - will i need this if I start off taking care of the shoes properly and don't gunk them up with random stuff like the kiwi saddle soap I bought tons of from the grocery store last year before you guys got me on the right path

    -suede products - all the reading I did just confused me on this one. Do I get a spray and the gommadin rubber eraser thingy?

    -Or am I just better off leaving all this crap to a cobbler, if I can ever find one I would trust with my little darlings...

    Thanks, as always, for your help and ideas!!
     
  3. Alcibiades

    Alcibiades Senior member

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    Gents... Pick 2 of 3

    - Cigar LWB (Barrie)
    - Cigar PTB (Barrie)
    - Cigar NST (Aberdeen)
     
  4. poena

    poena Senior member

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    [​IMG]Just got these in! Super excited!

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
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  5. imolazhp_ci

    imolazhp_ci Senior member

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    lwb + ptb
     
  6. bespoken pa

    bespoken pa Senior member

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    kwhitelaw Senior member

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    this
     
  8. hkpm

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    PTB + NST
     
  9. MrDV

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    Lwb and ptb
     
  10. imolazhp_ci

    imolazhp_ci Senior member

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    the nst is an odd shoe. fantastic boot. odd shoe.
     
  11. MrDV

    MrDV Senior member

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    Thanks sazon. I think these are my only calf aldens.
     
  12. Papa Doble

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    It took me a while to realize this, but I tend to agree. I'd further restrict it to NST boots on the barrie or plaza. NST shoe or boot + aberdeen doesn't do it for me, though I know for many here it does.
     
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  13. Papa Doble

    Papa Doble Senior member

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    LWB + PTB
     
  14. stanford88

    stanford88 Well-Known Member

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    +1, not a fan of NST.
     
  15. El Argentino

    El Argentino Senior member

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    Was just perusing the MC B/S, and was surprised at the number of Alden offerings for folks between 8-10.5 over there. Some deals to be scored on the boards, gentlemen...
     
  16. takashi78

    takashi78 Senior member

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    After reading this thread for so long i finally got myself a pair of Aldens with flexwelt.
    Really comfortable.
    But i only noticed the below after i got back.
    I bought it at Alden SF on holiday and now am back in Asia.

    The wrinkle you see in the pic is only one this part of the one shoe alone and not present anywhere else.

    This is my most expensive shoe and my first GOOD pair.

    1- Is this something i should be worried about?

    Living in a tropical country with bad roads and wet weather unexpectedly always, there will be times where these will get wet.
    2- How will these leather soles last? Its my first pair with them.
    3- Any protective measures i need or should do to protect the shoe/leather sole in these climates?

    The Alden store threw in a small bottle of boot cream and told me thats all i need to upkeep them. Not much of a wax n shine person, as long as the leather is clean n well conditioned i am a happy camper.

    4- So will cleaning the shoe and applying the cream + brush be enough?

    [​IMG]
     
  17. BeSpiffington

    BeSpiffington Senior member

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    +1 LWB & PTB
     
  18. BeSpiffington

    BeSpiffington Senior member

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    [​IMG]Just got these in! Super excited!

    By Jove, those look like some brand new Alden shoes. Congratulations! Lace before walking. I find it cuts down on tripping over ones feet. Seriously, the LWB's are the bomb.
     
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  19. ReppTiePrepster

    ReppTiePrepster Senior member

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  20. SuitedDx

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    Congrats. Those should age well! Wear in good health.
     
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