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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. ctrlaltelite

    ctrlaltelite Senior member

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    hey guys could you point me in the right direction for shoe tree for my aldens i need some bad thanks.

    see my earlier post regarding rochester shoe trees.
     
  2. slappy

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    Hm that's interesting. However I think we have different issues here. Your right boot has an area that's also whiteish but it looks like the lacquer was merely stripped off that area. That area on my boot is not only stripped of lacquer, the area itself is damaged. As I said it looks like a sharp objet was accidentaly jammed into it and moved around. Some areas are raised, others are deep, it looks like if you took a tree and jammed a screwdriver into it then wiggled it around. I have that same lacquer issue also, and if it was just that I would keep them as I could always just get that part refinished for cheap. However the fact that mine is also damaged means it can't be fixed easilly.

    If you look back at my picture you can see on the left the welt being attached just fine. Then there is a damaged weird looking white area, then a nicely finished lacquer area. This finished lacquer area is supposed to extend to where the damaged area is. It's clear that somehow it got damaged. For further proof you can see a small crack or tear in whatever material is behind the welt, the thing that looks like a twig (though clearly isn't, maybe rubber?). I guess this twig thing is the storm welt? So this whole area has sustained damage from that twig thing to the welt area.

    I cant imagine how these got past Aldens quality control as you can spot it from a few feet away. And what makes it worse is that it's readily apparent from the top down meaning while Im wearing it it's highly visible. And yes of course no one else will care, but I care and it's my dime.
     
  3. mg428

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    see my earlier post regarding rochester shoe trees.

    I know that it was previously confirmed that Alden uses Rochester shoe trees. Can someone confirm which specific Rochester shoe trees are used for Alden? I believe it is the Clinton style, right?

    http://www.onecedarlane.com/products.php?catid=2

    BTW, one thing I would like to point out is, I always thought that higher priced and fuller shoe trees, such as Rochester Washburn, are better. Well, in fact they are. But from a practical perspective, if you do not dispose of the box of your shoes and keep your shoes in such boxes with shoe trees inserted to your shoes, then they may not fit into such boxes. At least this is almost always the case with Woodlore shoe trees, as all of them (ultra, combination, epic) have a higher instep. Alden shoe trees, which I assume is the Rochester Clinton style, has a lower instep and does not create a problem for the shoes to fit to the manufacturer's box while the said shoe trees are inserted to the shoes.
     
  4. makewayhomer

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    Hm that's interesting. However I think we have different issues here. Your right boot has an area that's also whiteish but it looks like the lacquer was merely stripped off that area. That area on my boot is not only stripped of lacquer, the area itself is damaged. As I said it looks like a sharp objet was accidentaly jammed into it and moved around. Some areas are raised, others are deep, it looks like if you took a tree and jammed a screwdriver into it then wiggled it around. I have that same lacquer issue also, and if it was just that I would keep them as I could always just get that part refinished for cheap. However the fact that mine is also damaged means it can't be fixed easilly.

    If you look back at my picture you can see on the left the welt being attached just fine. Then there is a damaged weird looking white area, then a nicely finished lacquer area. This finished lacquer area is supposed to extend to where the damaged area is. It's clear that somehow it got damaged. For further proof you can see a small crack or tear in whatever material is behind the welt, the thing that looks like a twig (though clearly isn't, maybe rubber?). I guess this twig thing is the storm welt? So this whole area has sustained damage from that twig thing to the welt area.

    I cant imagine how these got past Aldens quality control as you can spot it from a few feet away. And what makes it worse is that it's readily apparent from the top down meaning while Im wearing it it's highly visible. And yes of course no one else will care, but I care and it's my dime.


    there have been plenty of complaints in this thread about Alden QC, particularly with boots, even with firsts. I don't think it should come as a shock anymore that plenty of effed up boots are coming out of the Alden factory. I mean I know this is a thread where people praise Alden, and people don't want to hear this, but it's stunning to me that so many basic complaints have surfaced here about $400 - $500 shoes that are not manufactured in high quantities
     
  5. slappy

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    Yes I am considering getting a boot from a different company. Alden makes good looking shoes, but they keep increasing their prices every year with seemingly little regard for QC. Their shell shoes cost more than Crockett & Jones now. The boots are really comfortable though, probably the most comfortable boot Ive ever tried on. However they are definitely clunky. Ive looked at other boot companies, the one I like the most is Rider but they are all massively more expensive.
     
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    Anyone ever try Meltonian delicate cream on their Aldens? The guy at the shoe store recommended them but it didn't receive very good reviews online. One thing on AAA said it would strip the color from your shoes, which seemed kind of odd for a "delicate" cream.
     
  8. makewayhomer

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    Their shell shoes cost more than Crockett & Jones now.

    calf Alden is about the same price as calf C&J, and the shells from each company are pretty close as well
     
  9. slappy

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    Pediwear has the C&J shell shoes for about $540. Some Alden shoes are only a bit more at 580 or so, but most are over 600. Anyways my only point is that Alden must have got a pretty serious uptick in business over the last several years. They are free to charge what they want and I have the disposable income to afford their stuff; I just wish they would take their QC more seriously.
     
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    there have been plenty of complaints in this thread about Alden QC, particularly with boots, even with firsts. I don't think it should come as a shock anymore that plenty of effed up boots are coming out of the Alden factory. I mean I know this is a thread where people praise Alden, and people don't want to hear this, but it's stunning to me that so many basic complaints have surfaced here about $400 - $500 shoes that are not manufactured in high quantities

    +1 -even though I have not seen slappy's boots in person and still believe that his boots are fine-

    I don't think that this is a thread where people praise Alden. Note that the thread is called "The official Alden thread", and not ""The official Alden praise thread". We need to criticize if we are unhappy with the quality. As far as I see, the problems mainly occur in boots, perhaps only in Indy boots, and mostly with the ones with Chromexcel uppers.
     
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    +1 -even though I have not seen slappy's boots in person and still believe that his boots are fine-

    I don't think that this is a thread where people praise Alden. Note that the thread is called "The official Alden thread", and not ""The official Alden praise thread". We need to criticize if we are unhappy with the quality. As far as I see, the problems mainly occur in boots, perhaps only in Indy boots, and mostly with the ones with Chromexcel uppers.


    I bought my first pair of aldens - Winn Perry Double waterloc officer boots - and the stitching of the upper has unravelled and looks horrible. I am severely disappointed by the quality control - becuase quite frankly the materials are all such nice quality and of course i paid alot for them.

    damn you alden - damn you!!
     
  12. alleyooptroop

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    look what came in today!!! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    Nice...the Roy is such a lovely boot. Really, I should order one but I'm just too damn inpatient to wait the many months it takes to get them in. I keep hoping one of these days I'll stop into Context and they'll just happen to have an extra 11.5 sitting around [​IMG] Unfortunately I don't think that is likely to happen.
     
  14. alleyooptroop

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    Nice...the Roy is such a lovely boot. Really, I should order one but I'm just too damn inpatient to wait the many months it takes to get them in. I keep hoping one of these days I'll stop into Context and they'll just happen to have an extra 11.5 sitting around [​IMG] Unfortunately I don't think that is likely to happen.

    not to make you feel bad but i thought i was going to have to wait. i went on their site but my size wasn't listed! i guess they had all the preorders in my size they were willing to take. so i called anyway to plead for one more and lo and behold they had a pair in stock! i told them i felt like i hit the lottery [​IMG]
     
  15. jet

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    cotton suit not shown, suede longwings from LSH.

    [​IMG]


    damn nice rick these were the first lwb i wanted
     
  16. blynch

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    Does Alden Shop SF take returns on sale/discontinued shoes? Didn't see mention of it, so thought I'd double check here before ordering.
     
  17. rick

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    damn nice rick these were the first lwb i wanted


    thanks jet
     
  18. fritzl

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    damn nice rick...

    +1
     
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    Ahab, by "same shoe" I mean that it fulfills the same function within my wardrobe. To put it another way, it is a near-perfect substitute. The Alden cigar longwing would look good with any outfit with which I wear my brown cordo Darltons. Conversely, any situation in which my Darltons would not be appropriate would not be improved by wearing the Alden cigar longwings.
    I agree. But for some reason I am more likely to dress my Darlton's down. They are also my travel shoe because they are so easy to remove at checkpoints and put back on.

    But of course you are correct. If I had it to do all over again I think I would have just purchased the Alden Cigar longwing for $600+ than the Darlton for $400+ but both shoes are really nice.

    None of this is to say they are exactly equivalent. The Barrie last fits me much better than the Crockett & Jones 325, on which the Darlton is constructed. I agree, the heel on the 325 is wide and the sole of the shoe is stiffer and less supple. I wore my well-used Darltons on Wednesday and my brand new Alden suede longwings on Thursday (identical to the ones Rick is wearing above), and the brand new double leather soles on the Aldens were more comfortable than the broken-in soles on the Darltons.

    However, after making a series of somewhat duplicative and redundant wardrobe purchases, I've started asking myself whether a particular item actually fills a hole in my wardrobe, or whether it's just a variation on an item I already own and enjoy.

    HEH! I am there brother. Especially with shoes. [​IMG]
     
  20. Ahab

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    Got my Ravellos on today
    Very nice. These look very versatile.
    there have been plenty of complaints in this thread about Alden QC, particularly with boots, even with firsts. I don't think it should come as a shock anymore that plenty of effed up boots are coming out of the Alden factory. I mean I know this is a thread where people praise Alden, and people don't want to hear this, but it's stunning to me that so many basic complaints have surfaced here about $400 - $500 shoes that are not manufactured in high quantities
    Well I am not sure what to think of the complaints here. It is like when I go to NewEgg and look at the user reviews and I see a bunch of horrible reviews on a product but when I buy it I do not have any issues at all. I think people are more likely to post when they have an issue. But here what surprises me is that some of the issues are from people who post many positive experiences so I have to take the negative experiences here more seriously. For what it is worth I have a few pairs of Alden boots and I have a small separation at the bottom of the eyelet tab but nothing like the ones I have seen here and it does not seem to be getting any worse. BUT my Indy's fit a little large, they are not tight at all which may make a difference.
    Anyone ever try Meltonian delicate cream on their Aldens? The guy at the shoe store recommended them but it didn't receive very good reviews online. One thing on AAA said it would strip the color from your shoes, which seemed kind of odd for a "delicate" cream.
    No. I use their colored shoe creams and have no problems.
    Pediwear has the C&J shell shoes for about $540. Some Alden shoes are only a bit more at 580 or so, but most are over 600. Anyways my only point is that Alden must have got a pretty serious uptick in business over the last several years. They are free to charge what they want and I have the disposable income to afford their stuff; I just wish they would take their QC more seriously.
    I have had no problems with Alden QC but I do have the minor finishing flaws that all Alden's possess on all of my shoes. But I like it that my Alden's have these finishing flaws. Maybe it is just a justification or rationalization but I like it when I see the little flaws when I am shining my shoes. And I really hate to say it because I am going to open up a can of worms and I really am not going to talk about this.... But I remember reading about the holes in the back of the boots and looking and seeing the holes on my boots. Some people were freaking out and saying a lot of what people are now saying about QC. Well that was a while ago and I forgot about it until I was shining my Rider Boot's chukka and I noticed two little holes in the same place. It does not effect the boot in any way and I think the Rider's are made by Martegani which seems to have a much better finish than my Alden's. So I am not ready to accept that the sky is falling yet.
    +1 -even though I have not seen slappy's boots in person and still believe that his boots are fine- I don't think that this is a thread where people praise Alden. Note that the thread is called "The official Alden thread", and not ""The official Alden praise thread". We need to criticize if we are unhappy with the quality. As far as I see, the problems mainly occur in boots, perhaps only in Indy boots, and mostly with the ones with Chromexcel uppers.
    I agree.
    I bought my first pair of aldens - Winn Perry Double waterloc officer boots - and the stitching of the upper has unravelled and looks horrible. I am severely disappointed by the quality control - becuase quite frankly the materials are all such nice quality and of course i paid alot for them. I would like to see some pics please. damn you alden - damn you!!
    look what came in today!!!
    Fantastic! Very nice and looks a lot different than the Indy's which I feel are getting over exposed on the forum at this time. Luckily they are not overexposed in real life!
    damn nice rick these were the first lwb i wanted
    +1
     
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