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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. HorseHide

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    Hanger Project and Leffot also stock Saphir (though I don't think Leffot stocks the cordovan cream/paste)
     


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    Cream - the consistency is akin to many calf shoe creams.
     


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    I have non-Alden ptb's in color 4. For color 4, I would recommend neutral.

    Saphir's line of shell cordovan creams is limited in color selections, and unless I can make a very similar match, I opt for the neutral color. In my experience, the neutral has never left a white build-up of any sort.

    I also use neutral on Whiskey.
     


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    come live in Cali. its boot season year-round :slayer:
     


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    Being made in the USA may be a positive aspect for you (and me), but it certainly does not make a product worse if the product is produced in France. I like the idea that Venetian is made in the US. That's why I purchased a tin of it. Knowing Saphir was made in France did not make Saphire Reno a "worse" product for me and I purchased that as well.

    You do realize the shoes on your feet are the result of a global supply chain don't you? I bet Venetian is made from chemicals that might be sourced from <GASP> France or some other non-US locale. Those damn frogs! Keep your hands off of our heritage shoe cream.
     


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    No, but Saphir is worse performing as far as I'm concerned, and more expensive (even if it performed the same). That fact makes it worse to me.

    Further, that Venetian Shoe Cream is not made offshore and shares an American heritage craftsmanship going back to the late 1800s/early 1900s, just like Alden and Horween, appeals.

    We all have our own decisions to make about how we spend our money and what appeals to us about Aldens in the first place. For me, the American heritage absolutely plays a part in that.
     
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    This is opinion, not fact

    Saphir as a line has a lot of fans here and elsewhere.
     


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    Nope. That Saphir is more expensive than Venetian is far from an 'opinion'.
     


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    Your assessment of Saphir's performance is the opinion I was referring to. It is more expensive, but many of us think it is a great product for cordovan (as well as other shoe leathers)

    Also, I know someone else said that reno had turpentine in it - I haven't seen turpentine listed as an ingredient in renovateur (it is apparently used in the normal Saphir waxes, which I guess why they offer cordovan cream as well).
     
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    Those look better than brand new! Wish I could make mine look like that.
     


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    Of course that's an opinion, I stated so myself. What part of 'as far as I'm concerned' from my post above did you not understand?

    It's also an opinion that so happens to be shared by Horween, the makers of the shell.

    I know a lot of people like and swear by Saphir, and no one is doubting that is a good product, but not for the price charged vs. Venetian. Saphir is way over-hyped and definitely over-priced too.
     
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