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  1. borderline

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    ALDEN FAQ

    Compiled by borderline using the combined wisdom of "The Official Alden Thread" on Styleforum and other web sources.

    Before Buying
    What are the different lasts and how do they fit relative to one another?
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/13590#post_4526910
    *See below for more sizing information

    What do the different cordovan colors look like?
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/21165#post_5102551
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/21300#post_5108188

    I feel like I'm buying too many Aldens, what can I do?
    1) Give up, there is no hope.
    2) Stop reading this thread

    Why do they call it the Indy boot?
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/21750#post_5128364
    http://www.theraider.net/information/indy_gear/boots.php
    http://www.indygear.com/igboots.html

    Are Alden shoes worth the price?
    At the end of the day, the main benefits to Alden shoes are
    1) High quality Horween leathers (Chromexcel, cordovan, and I assume suede) in unique colors
    2) Willingness to work with retailers (many of whom work with customers) to develop special styles
    3) Variety of well-fitting lasts
    4) Recraft-ability (not necessarily by Alden, but by a variety of cobblers)
    5) Decent price point compared to shoemakers that work with similar materials
    6) Traditional aesthetic (high quality and stylish in a "handsome," "gentlemanly" way)
    7) Alden shoes are pretty comfortable, can be very eye catching (cordovan, suede, etc tend to get tons of compliments) and overall enhance one's look.
    The obvious downsides are
    1) Poor quality control, particularly as they ramp production
    2) Low / inconsistent availability
    (Alcibiades)

    After Buying
    How should I break in my shoes?
    Use “Mac’s Break-in Procedure”:
    Shoes should be worn only on carpeting on three different days for a minimum of one hour in order to ascertain that the fit is proper.

    What is the "pen trick"?
    You put a pen where your foot joints are and then crease the shoe. This way the crease is set exactly where your joint bends and the crease is nice and even. People report varying levels of success with this, and it is generally thought to be more important for the PTB.

    Will my cordovan shoes stretch?
    The consensus is that cordovan stretches very little, if at all.

    Care and Cleaning
    How should I clean my cordovan shoes or boots?
    Use the “Mac Method”:
    1) Clean shoes with damp cloth

    2) Brush vigorously with a horsehair brush

    3) Buff with smooth cloth

    4) Use wax after a minimum of fifteen wearings

    http://theagatineeyelet.wordpress.com/2010/10/05/the-mac-method/

    Some other cleaning advice from Alden of Carmel
    1. Do not use 'neutral' polish
    2. Do not clean cordovan shoes using saddle soap
    3. Do not attempt to clean cordovan shoes using petroleum distillates or cleaning fluids
    4. Do not use any spray shines or aerosol type waterproofs
    5. Do not attempt to dry wet shell cordovan shoes with heat or a heater. Wipe them dry, and allow them to dry naturally
    6. Do not attempt to polish shell cordovan shoes while wet
    http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/index.cfm/care_of_shell_cordovan.htm

    My shoes are dry and/or discolored in the creases. How can I fix this?
    Alden SF recommends using a small amount of cream in the creases. This can moisturize the area and also bring up some of the natural color in the leather. Most people use either Saphir Renovateur or Venetian Shoe Cream.
    http://www.hangerproject.com/saphir-renovateur.html
    http://oakstreetbootmakers.com/accessories/venetian-shoe-cream

    My cordovan shoes got wet and there are tiny round marks or bubbles. What should I do?
    1) Next time try the Alden Leather Defender
    2) Brush them for awhile
    3) Try some Renovateur
    4) Try the deer bone treatment
    5) Just wait, it will go away evenutally

    Restoration

    Will Alden put a different sole on my shoes?
    Alden Restoration will now only recraft your shoes using original materials. If you want to put on a different sole, your best bet may be B. Nelson.
    http://www.bnelsonshoes.com/

    Can I have speed hooks converted to eyelets?
    B Nelson will do it for $12 per eyelet (not per pair). A standard Alden boot with 4 pairs of speed hooks would therefore run $96. The top four eyelets would be off-centered with the bottom five, which is often done to compensate for the oblong size of the speed hooks.
    Here's an example: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/18000#post_4958968

    I want new shoelaces for my Indy Boots. What are my options?
    1) Alden will mail you a pair if you ask. http://www.aldenshoe.com/
    2) The Alden Madison store will sell you waxed laces for ~$6. http://aldenmadisonny.com/
    3) Red Wing model 9011 will work, request them here http://www.redwingheritage.com/laces/

    Acronyms
    LWB: Longwing blucher
    SWB: Shortwing blucher
    PTB: Plain toe blucher
    LHS: Leisure hand sewn (a loafer)

    A video by Epaulet about the Alden factory


    Cordovan: A Photo Gallery of Some of Mac's Shoes
    Whiskey: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/11760#post_4267010
    Ravello: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/11760#post_4266962
    Cigar: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/11745#post_4266729
    #8: http://www.styleforum.net/t/85589/the-official-alden-thread/11745#post_4266673

    Online Purchasing Options
    Leather Soul http://www.leathersoulhawaii.com/category/brands/alden/
    The Shoe Mart http://www.theshoemart.com/alden-shoes/bt-ald.html
    Alden Shop http://www.aldenshop.com/
    O'Connells http://shop.oconnellsclothing.com/dress_shoes.php
    Sherman Brothers http://www.shermanbrothers.com/brand...S&BrandCode=AL
    J. Crew http://www.jcrew.com/mens_category/s...enForJCrew.jsp
    Leffot http://blog.leffot.com/category/footwear/alden-brands/
    Ben Silver http://www.bensilver.com/Alden-American-Shoes.html
    Orvis http://www.orvis.com/
    Moulded Shoe http://mouldedshoe.com/alden1.html
    Unionmade http://www.unionmadegoods.com/alden_Mens.html
    Blackbird http://www.blackbirdballard.com/Alden_Mens.html
    Context http://www.contextclothing.com/brand.php?brand=Alden
    Epaulet http://www.epauletshop.com/servlet/t...den/Categories
    Renners Fine Boots & Shoes http://www.rennersbootsshoes.com/aldenshoes1.html
    Sky Valet http://www.skyvalet1.com/Alden.aspx
    Frans Boone Store https://www.fransboonestore.com/en/store/brands/alden.html
    The Bureau http://www.thebureaubelfast.com/shop/brand/58/alden/
    Alden of Carmel http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/index.cfm/shoes.htm
    J. Gilbert http://www.jgilbertfootwear.com/?q=node/90
    Need Supply http://needsupply.com/
    Tres Bien http://www.tresbienshop.com/
    Francos http://www.francos.com/
    Barneys http://www.barneys.com/
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    Anecdotal sizing information:
    I find the Modified last (for my foot) is wider than the Barrie. 9D Modified fits me great, while 9D in Barrie is a snug fit, the E width for me in Barrie is too wide. I find the Trubalance last to be a little bit bigger overall last to the Barrie, whereas the Modified has a more tapered mid foot under the arch, opening up to a wider forefoot. (NewYorkRanger)

    Normal size is 10.5D, I take a 10D in Barrie and 10.5E in Leydon (borderline)

    I wear a 9 D in the Barrie and i've also tried a 9E in the Barrie. I won some of each and wear them both. The 9D is a little snug and the 9E is a little loose. I have a pair of 9.5 D leydon lasted LWB and they fit great. I went with a 9.5D on the grant.
    9.5 E in the Dalton and most all AE's
    9D in the truebalance (almost perfect fit)
    9.5 D in grant ( perfect fit)
    9.5 D in leydon (perfect fit)

    (Pastor)

    I wear 6.5D Barrie and the 7D Grants fits well for me (actually 6.5E also works fine). (dsmivtr)

    If you size down 1/2 for barrie (say 10E to 9.5E), don't try to size down 1 and go wider (to 9EE) (kippy).

    the best way to determine fit and comfort is to ensure that the ball of your foot is at the widest part of the shoes. some people may have short toes and some people may have longer toes but using that area as a reference point has always worked well for me. Also there is just a feel when you put on a pair of shoes if it feels slightly too large or slightly too tight. If you think it fits you well and is not causing any pain or slipping off when you lace them, then they are likely the right size.(MiniW)
     
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    I tend to take them out after a couple of days. I'm more particular about shell (especially if it's unlined).
     


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    +2

    the sole and the chino turn ups seem totally bizarre to me
     


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    A couple of additional Online Purchasing Options:

    Frans Boone Store https://www.fransboonestore.com/en/store/brands/alden.html
    The Bureau http://www.thebureaubelfast.com/shop/brand/58/alden/
    Alden of Carmel http://www.alden-of-carmel.com/index.cfm/shoes.htm
    J. Gilbert http://www.jgilbertfootwear.com/?q=node/90
     
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    Sure they may be comfy. But for Aldens, they come off as gimmicky to me... as if they're catering to a trend or something. Just my take on it, but I wouldn't wear a pair of Aldens like that...
     


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    Why take out shoe trees? They're made to remain in the shoes when there is not a foot in them.
     
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    The natural chromexcel Self Edge boot looks a lot better than I expected in NYRanger's fit pics. Not necessarily my style but the boot does look very good. To each his own.

    That brings me to the navy suede boot from Leffot - great looking boot, but I've never been a fan of the red brick sole, so I'm gonna pass. Those boots would look killer on a double waterlock sole. My navy needs are covered for now with Tassel's navy suede unlined chukka....
     


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    well rob, it's much easier and i don't buy in this sw&d versus mc rivalery.

    these soles are used for "gesundheitsschuhe" in the vain of birkenstock. i only see them in retirement homes. each to his own. no worries.
     


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    I can appreciate this recent frenzy over blue suede, but to me it's just a bit too...

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