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***The official Alden thread *** Share enthusiasm, reviews, sizing, advice, and photos.

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by jet, Nov 3, 2008.

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  1. Beatlegeuse

    Beatlegeuse Senior member

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    @ spaceman - depending on what types of sneakers you're wearing, you may find the 10.5 on the barrie last to still be slightly big. There are some sneakers that run really small....I wear a size 14 in my Nike Free 5.0 sneakers for use at the gym, and I wear a 12 in barrie-lasted Aldens. Sounds crazy to have that much of a swing between shoes, but some sneakers (like Nike Free) run really small and some shoes (like Alden barries) run really big.
     


  2. CharlesT44

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    Personally, I'll never buy a pair of allen edmonds again. Not because they are a bad shoe, but just because they don't fit with my personality or my functionality. I absolutely love cordovan, so in the respect alone, Alden blows AE out of the water. And with my lifestyle right now, boots make the most sense. Another point for Alden. I've also found Alden shoes to be more "finished". The shine is better, the edging is better and the soles are better. I've got nothing against AE and would highly recommend them for initial dress shoes as well as for people who are looking for the most "bang" for their buck. I seen a pair of cordovan bradley's go on ebay for $200. Actually that brings up another point, resale value. I don't plan on ever selling my shoes, but Alden's, particularly rare shell color sell for 60% to 80% of retail. I like the fact that they hold some value, even if used. Whereas my black hugo oxfords are basically worthless if I tried to sell them.
     


  3. seer

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    Yes, but like I said, I personally won't buy out of the US. Though Sierra Trading Post has some great Trickers boots/shoes at great prices - very tempting!

    http://www.sierratradingpost.com/s/trickers/
     


  4. bucksfan

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    Good discussion regarding AE vs Alden - I have a pretty good AE collection going now, and just recently got my first pair of Aldens (Alden for J. Crew cap-toe boots in #8), and recently got my first pair of C&J (for RL Marlow PTBs in brown shell). I probably have one more AE shoe to get, then I may start adding Aldens at a slow rate.

    I agree with the above that AE makes a good quality, solid shoe. In the "real world" AE and Alden (if the person has heard of Alden) are considered near the top of the line shoes from what I can tell. I know I used to think this until the past year.

    The AE calfskin is high quality shoe, but I doubt I'll be buying any more calf shoes. I imagine Alden's calf offerings are in the same range of quality.

    AE does a good job with cordovan too. I think the AE cordovans don't get the appreciation Alden's do because they are limited in color currently - burgundy, black and brown (but only on one shoe) and AE is seen as "entry level" in the nice shoe world. Regarding colors, AE is supposedly getting a walnut color shell for their captoe balmoral brogue (Strand) and wingtip boot (Dalton) next month / early next year. Pricing will be in the $550 range for the shoes, $650ish for the boots supposedly.

    Having recently added an Alden shell offering and a C&J shell offering to my arsenal of AE shells, here are my thoughts:

    1) Alden's shell comes from the factory with a different finish. It is shinier and the "overdye" they use on #8 is very good looking. I typically need to brush my new AE shells at least 3 times before they start to sparkle. Alden's did almost immediately. C&J were more like AE's with a hazy, waxy appearance that hid the shine.

    2) Alden's Sole leather is virtually identical to AE's shells (both use J.R. supposedly), but I like the beveled finish that Alden puts on the sole edges better (at least, my boots have a beveled edge- not sure about others).

    3) Alden uses more nails in their heels than AE. (but C&J's fit & finish is better still)

    4) The sole stitching in the AEs seems to be done in a deeper channel, which may protect the stitching better. C&J's stitching is a step above both AE & Alden - deep, consistent channel and nice stitching.

    5) Overall fit and finish are very similar, except for the differences above. My Alden boots have a single stitch in the upper that is loose... but not a big deal in my opinion. My AE cordovans have little nits to pick as well. The C&Js have none that I have found yet.
     


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    For what it's worth, I think Alden's Hampton-lasted calfskin balmorals are their best kept secret, albeit at a higher price point than AE calfskin. My 911's are my most-complimented pair of shoes.

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    I think Alden tan calf looks good. Another example:

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    First, what are C&J's? Second, about 6 weeks ago when getting into all this I ordered the AE Bayfields - when I first tried them one of the speed hooks popped right out! That gave me a bad taste.
     


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    I want to support America workers as much as possible. My underwear, my pants, my shirts, my shoes, my coats, my belts and most of my socks (I do have some socks made in England) are US made. As far as trade goes - I'm a protectionist...
     
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    Crockett & Jones. I certainly understand your distaste - that would turn me off too.
     


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    Thanks, I assume that C&J are an English shoe...
     


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  13. bucksfan

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    Yes they are. They make shoes under their own name, some of the "Peal" line for Brooks Bros and the "Darlton" line for Ralph Lauren. They do a nice job, but not made in the USA. I, like you would prefer to support our American brethren. However, I figure 12 new pair of USA made shoes so far this year is decent "support" though, and I wanted to try them.
     


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    C&J is a better quality shoemaker for a similar price. UK workers are protesting as well, ya know
     
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    Well you certainly have done your share in buying American. Plus I'm just a fan of Gitman, Bills, and now Alden. And my tastes are rather simple...
     


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