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The Official Alden Thread for 2024 - Share Reviews, Sizing, Advice, and Photos.

tuna roll

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I think you may be out of luck on getting relief from Alden/TSM on seconds that you’ve worn. I’m pretty handy with dye so what I would likely do is grab the smallest crafts paintbrush I could find and apply ever-so-slightly a bit of dye on the visible areas.

Fieblings is my dye of choice.
thanks, I just emailed TSM about it. let’s see what they say.

worst case scenario I’ll keep wearing them and see what happens. and try improving it with some Fieblings.
 

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thanks, I just emailed TSM about it. let’s see what they say.

worst case scenario I’ll keep wearing them and see what happens. and try improving it with some Fieblings.

I had a similar issue with one of my C8 unlined LHS’s from BB. My issue, like yours, was one that nobody other than the wearer would ever notice. But over time it bothered me so I took care of it. Not the most elegant solution but one that certainly did the trick……

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Excuse the dust as these don’t make the summer rotation so the are tucked away in another closet.
 

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I thought Alden wasn’t producing unlined shell shoes anymore but apparently that restriction only applies to LHS or loafers in general?

Anyway, these unlined Dover makeups look nice and I bet are comfy AF.

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I am not the resident SME on this but as I understand it, Alden no longer produces shoes that are 100% unlined (i.e. BB LHS’s). They do make shoes that are unlined in the front but lined in the back (i.e. the Dovers in your image). As an owner of the Dover I can attest that they are very comfortable. Your image looks to come from B&M, which I believe is the only model with a flat welt (my personal favorite).
 

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I am not the resident SME on this but as I understand it, Alden no longer produces shoes that are 100% unlined (i.e. BB LHS’s). They do make shoes that are unlined in the front but lined in the back (i.e. the Dovers in your image). As an owner of the Dover I can attest that they are very comfortable. Your image looks to come from B&M, which I believe is the only model with a flat welt (my personal favorite).
thanks, I see. yes these are from B&M and they have both the black shell and color8.

I also love a flat welt!
 

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Alright gents, this is it for me. I love Ravello but I’ve gotten a bit heavy over the years so it was hard to pass on flipping my AoM Vanderbilts into these Whiskey Chukkas. Only my second pair of Whiskey so it helps balance things a bit. Family shot with my Whiskey Indy’s and Ravello LHS’s. Never get hung op on labels. LHS’s look pretty close to Whiskey to me…………

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I know much has been made about old whiskey v new whiskey/bourbon but it feels like much ado about nothing. I see very little difference between the Indy’s (definitely old whiskey) and the Chukkas. Regardless, I’m pretty sure this is it for me.

Happy Saturday gang. Have a great weekend and stay cool.
 

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Sorry to hear this - are these the new ones that you recently bought for nearly $1k? If so, I would find that really annoying - I would call Alden and the retailer where you bought them.
Here is the defect on the pair you mentioned. Color 8 cordovan, Modified last. There is a weird bulge at the pinky toe region. Only on one foot.

In the last photo, to the left of the bulge, there are some superficial marks on the leather, probably from stitching the sole to the welt and accidentaly hitting the upper. To the right of the bulge there are similar marks but a bit deeper. I hope it's not tearing...

The inside / insole looks normal, which leads me to believe something happened while stitching the outsole to the welt (as opposed to a lasting issue).

In person it's much less noticeable than it seems. I had to get the angle just right when taking the photos, and as I wear them and the rolls start to show, it will be even less apparent. I'm just concerned about long term, structural issues.

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Alright gents, this is it for me. I love Ravello but I’ve gotten a bit heavy over the years so it was hard to pass on flipping my AoM Vanderbilts into these Whiskey Chukkas. Only my second pair of Whiskey so it helps balance things a bit. Family shot with my Whiskey Indy’s and Ravello LHS’s. Never get hung op on labels. LHS’s look pretty close to Whiskey to me…………

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I know much has been made about old whiskey v new whiskey/bourbon but it feels like much ado about nothing. I see very little difference between the Indy’s (definitely old whiskey) and the Chukkas. Regardless, I’m pretty sure this is it for me.

Happy Saturday gang. Have a great weekend and stay cool.
Killin it, my G, killin!
 

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Alright gents, this is it for me. I love Ravello but I’ve gotten a bit heavy over the years so it was hard to pass on flipping my AoM Vanderbilts into these Whiskey Chukkas. Only my second pair of Whiskey so it helps balance things a bit. Family shot with my Whiskey Indy’s and Ravello LHS’s. Never get hung op on labels. LHS’s look pretty close to Whiskey to me…………

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I know much has been made about old whiskey v new whiskey/bourbon but it feels like much ado about nothing. I see very little difference between the Indy’s (definitely old whiskey) and the Chukkas. Regardless, I’m pretty sure this is it for me.

Happy Saturday gang. Have a great weekend and stay cool.

Excellent as usual. May you wear in good health!
 

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Here is the defect on the pair you mentioned. Color 8 cordovan, Modified last. There is a weird bulge at the pinky toe region. Only on one foot.

In the last photo, to the left of the bulge, there are some superficial marks on the leather, probably from stitching the sole to the welt and accidentaly hitting the upper. To the right of the bulge there are similar marks but a bit deeper. I hope it's not tearing...

The inside / insole looks normal, which leads me to believe something happened while stitching the outsole to the welt (as opposed to a lasting issue).

In person it's much less noticeable than it seems. I had to get the angle just right when taking the photos, and as I wear them and the rolls start to show, it will be even less apparent. I'm just concerned about long term, structural issues.

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I’m not a cobbler or anything but it looks like they just missed the upper when welting that part of the shoe. You can see some of the inseam stitches “grinning”(a defect in itself) on the left side in the bottom photo just before the bulge. The fact that it bulges just after makes me think the shoe just got tilted too far away and the needle missed the upper on a couple stitches. So yeah this is structural most likely and will need to be rewelted, at least the way I see it.
 

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I had a similar issue with one of my C8 unlined LHS’s from BB. My issue, like yours, was one that nobody other than the wearer would ever notice. But over time it bothered me so I took care of it. Not the most elegant solution but one that certainly did the trick……

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Excuse the dust as these don’t make the summer rotation so the are tucked away in another close

Here is the defect on the pair you mentioned. Color 8 cordovan, Modified last. There is a weird bulge at the pinky toe region. Only on one foot.

In the last photo, to the left of the bulge, there are some superficial marks on the leather, probably from stitching the sole to the welt and accidentaly hitting the upper. To the right of the bulge there are similar marks but a bit deeper. I hope it's not tearing...

The inside / insole looks normal, which leads me to believe something happened while stitching the outsole to the welt (as opposed to a lasting issue).

In person it's much less noticeable than it seems. I had to get the angle just right when taking the photos, and as I wear them and the rolls start to show, it will be even less apparent. I'm just concerned about long term, structural issues.

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I have the exact same bulge on my color 8 longwings - my black pair does not have this issue. Both are cordovan. It won't roll out either, I know it's pointless, but I have an ebony stick that I use, when I wear either pair, once I put the shoe trees back in, I roll out the vamp a bit with the ebony stick - it flattens out some of the roll - it's pointless, because as soon as you wear them again it's back. The rolled vamp is not my favorite part of cordovan - I know some guys love it. I think with the hand sewn nature of these shoes, it's just a crap shoot and most pairs will have some type of imperfection. I have 3 pairs of Aldens - two of them arrived with something abnormal. In terms of what you have pictured, I think I could live with that...I have an abnormal crease in the same area..they came out of the box new like this - with tax and shipping, nearly $1k...I included a picture....
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