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The Official Alden Thread for 2021 - Share Reviews, Sizing, Advice, and Photos.

audog

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My undergraduate degree is a BFA in Fine/Studio arts so I have no desire to complete another written and project dissertation. With that said, ivory is not white but rather a creamy off-white because it has some color. Technically, True Black is "all the colors in equal measure" and True White is the "total lack of any color".

I do not know enough about Alden's colors and what retailers may call them so I will defer to the actual experts regarding the shoe in question and other white, ivory, and milkshake Alden shoes and boots.
You are correct that on a color wheel, Ivory would have a slight off-white tint, however it looks white to the majority of people who view it. As the saying goes "Close enough for Government work"
 

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Except that positioning yourself as authority on all things is exactly what you are doing. But we’ll just roll with this then. 👍
I am not positioning myself as an authority on all things but I am making an educated and informed statement about colors. If there is someone else who has studied color theory (at one of the best art schools in the country) and has a different opinion, I am willing to read it.

As to "Alden colors", I clearly stated that I defer to the Alden experts.
 

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Not sure how technical ivory not being white is, but I expect a dissertation...

Alden offers both milkshake suede and and ivory calf suede. Ivory is most definitely white.

Odd instinct to tell a guy, who knows that he purchased white shoes, that his shoes are not what he thinks. While supporting that with a flurry of links that are obviously a different color.
It's also odd to edit a post after someone responded to it just so you can take a dig at that person.
 

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In the interest of moving forward, I'd like to propose that we adopt a superseding nomenclature for white aka ivory (not to be confused with milkshake)...

My recommendation is that we call it color 0 or just zero or, as my elementary school gym teacher would call it when a kid was unable to manage a single pull up... goose egg (which incidentally also happens to be white or ivory or whatever... or wait, do they dye the eggs white?).

Anyway, those white shoes were pretty cool. Carry on, gents!
 

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My undergraduate degree is a BFA in Fine/Studio arts so I have no desire to complete another written and project dissertation. With that said, ivory is not white but rather a creamy off-white because it has some color. Technically, True Black is "all the colors in equal measure" and True White is the "total lack of any color".

I do not know enough about Alden's colors and what retailers may call them so I will defer to the actual experts regarding the shoe in question and other white, ivory, and milkshake Alden shoes and boots.
Alden calls all oxfords Balmorals and they are definitely not. If they call off-white white, it's not a big deal as long as people enjoy them.
 

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In the interest of moving forward, I'd like to propose that we adopt a superseding nomenclature for white aka ivory (not to be confused with milkshake)...

My recommendation is that we call it color 0 or just zero or, as my elementary school gym teacher would call it when a kid was unable to manage a single pull up... goose egg (which incidentally also happens to be white or ivory or whatever... or wait, do they dye the eggs white?).

Anyway, those white shoes were pretty cool. Carry on, gents!
On the golf courses is the only place I wear white (or ivory) shoes. And for the record, for a previous generation (s) Alden did have metal spiked golf shoe models within their stock product line.
 

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In the interest of moving forward, I'd like to propose that we adopt a superseding nomenclature for white aka ivory (not to be confused with milkshake)...

My recommendation is that we call it color 0 or just zero or, as my elementary school gym teacher would call it when a kid was unable to manage a single pull up... goose egg (which incidentally also happens to be white or ivory or whatever... or wait, do they dye the eggs white?).

Anyway, those white shoes were pretty cool. Carry on, gents!
Or just use the ignore function. Works wonders.
 

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I see his post as being edited 20 minutes ago and you replying 18 minutes ago...
1) Refresh to update your "last edited" times on the posts you are referencing.
2) SF, like most forum software, factors times on "posted" rather than when being "edited" which is what happened in this case, the other person posted, I quoted then wrote my response and then posted, he then updated after I responded.

So, whether or not he was responding to my response by editing his initial reply, there was still no reason to take the dig. Make sense?
 

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1) Refresh to update your "last edited" times on the posts you are referencing.
2) SF, like most forum software, factors times on "posted" rather than when being "edited" which is what happened in this case, the other person posted, I quoted then wrote my response and then posted, he then updated after I responded.

So, whether or not he was responding to my response by editing his initial reply, there was still no reason to take the dig. Make sense?
C'mon man, give it a rest
 

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C'mon man, give it a rest
If people do not want to be as clear and/or detailed oriented as I am that is fine but don't be pissy and start attacking me by making intentional derogatory statements such as "Except that positioning yourself as authority on all things is exactly what you are doing."

@jpm1 jumped in and should have found a better and/or more adult way to disagree in his initial reply. I believe him to be an Alden expert so he could have written something such as "Alden and some of the retailers just call it white and that is what we do as well" yet he chose to write an inflammatory response even though I had not engaged him in any way.

Go back an re-read my initial post in which I stated "I think..." which hardly means I am positioning myself as an expert. Or maybe when I wrote in my follow up reply, "I do not know enough about Alden's colors and what retailers may call them so I will defer to the actual experts..." was another example of me being transparent that while I know a great deal about colors and color theory, I did not claim to be an expert on "Alden colors".
 
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