Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by AJPA, Dec 19, 2011.
does that mean i am not cool style i own 0 leather
(or maybe 64 is considered old around here )
what style of leather jacket?
This thread is already heading down a path that could permanently derail its original purpose. I'm crunched for time, but I'll make a few points:
- Some aesthetics are easier to spend less on and still turn up good-great pieces. The Americana or preppy guy is more likely to dredge up something of worth thrifting than a guy who vibes more with the mid-to-high tier designers. Recommending that a guy who's interested in anything from the goth ninja hierarchy is stupid advice, unless you live in a bigger city where consignment shops carry such labels. And even then, you aren't usually getting that stuff dirt cheap.
- Regardless of your personal style, you'll usually be best served sinking money into outerwear and footwear and skimping elsewhere if it needs to be that way. Footwear worth a damn, and boots in particular, are incredibly tough to find on the cheap. Wait around for something that suits your fancy to pop up on the secondary market (B&S here, eBay, etc.) if necessary. Your patience will be rewarded. I missed out on a piece of outwear last fall because I couldn't reasonably spend that much, even on deep discount. I've had a similar, but honestly inferior, alternative bookmarked for a couple of months, but just couldn't justify shelling out that much money on something I only saw as a consolation price. Last night, I came across the coat from last year on eBay in my size, new with tags and with a BIN similar to what I would have spent on the coat I didn't REALLY want.
It doesn't always turn out that way, but don't go blowing a wad of cash on something that you aren't really into just because you "need something." Yeah, if you have no winter coat and it's six below outside, you have to get something. But don't back yourself into a corner that you don't need to and think you have to spend that money on something. The Krane coat that I have retailed at a grand, which just wasn't happening. But someone bought a bunch of Krane pieces at wholesale last year and posted them at less than half of that in the B&S forum. Patience, young grasshoppers.
- Don't go blowing your money on the side dishes if you haven't taken care of the meat and potatoes. That means don't blow $50 on some fancy Japanese cotton tee if you don't have a decent pair of boots. Don't buy a $300 Self Edge-type button down if your outerwear looks like hot garbage. Concern yourself with the little things after you've got the big boys squared away.
- There's nothing wrong with browsing the H&M and Gaps of the world if you aren't looking to make them the cornerstone of your closet. Most of the stuff is junk, but you can pluck some surprisingly decent stuff from such places here and there. Gap did those dip-dye button down shirts this spring and while a joke at retail, they were interesting looking enough to pick up when they inevitably hit deep discount. Similarly, one of the softest feeling shirts I own is some random $30 H&M shirt I came across after skimming through racks and racks of awful feeling clothing. No need to be like the guy up there having an aneurysm at the very thought of entering one of these stores. It's mostly junk, but there are some stray worthwhile items.
actually like this post a lot. HATE blends 95% of the time.
+1. Two pants and two shirts? C'mon. This isn't a 'how can I be presentable at work and have no one notice my existence for cheap' thread. You can get away with two shirts if you want to basically wear a uniform, I guess, but I don't think that's why anyone's on SF. Although this kid does it.
Anyway, I'm probably going to get a ton of hate for this, but I own nice button-ups and then I own a few from Express and if you're just looking for a white or grey button-up they're not that bad, and like $30 if you buy a couple during one of their sales which run essentially all the time. The fitss good, they iron easily, don't really wrinkle, and while a little smoother/shinier than a pure cotton oxford I don't mind them. Also I've had them for a couple years and they still look new. Uniqlo's probably better but I don't have one near me.
EG at full retail isn't 'affordable.' I liked where Shah was taking this thread.
I'm with Uncontrol and Razele here. I guess if you've got the means, go ahead and splurge on a dozen pieces of outerwear. Chances are, you'll still end up favoring two or three of those and the rest will sit in a closet, ignored all but maybe one day every couple of months.
All I really want in the way of outerwear right now is:
- Winter coat (check)
- Beater winter coat (check)
- Light trench (check)
- Overcoat (check)
- Leather (not yet)
- Fishtail (just because the ToJ iteration is so cool; I probably don't have much actual use for it)
Other people have other needs, but at some point, you're just collecting cool shit and aren't going to wear a lot of it too often.
My motorcycle jacket + a peacoat would be all that I need for outerwear. As I've noted, since I've got enough "plebe" clothes to keep me clean during the work week, I've begun replacing with "mid-range" stuff with the intent to have:
3 pairs Epaulet EPs
2 pairs Epaulet Rudy or Walts
10 OCBDs from WvG or similar
1 MTO leather jacket
Yes, it will be boring*, but at least I'll have that handled and I can start worrying about replacing my Apartment by Ikea with mid-century Danish pieces or something.
*right, come on. I'm a punk kid at heart. I could wear the same pair of ratty shorts every single day with a rotation of 3 or 4 t-shirts and I'd be okay. Smelly as fuck, but okay. The above would be a downright smorgasborg of variety compared to where I'm coming from.
i haven't read every post but in the last two these are seriously two of the best. I like jet when he wants to be helpful .
ps. where to cop oli spencer and howell on sale? those two seem to have limited distribution and don't last long during sale season.
APK's advice is damn near gospel. I went the opposite route. I blew a shit ton of money on nice chinos/khakis (oxymoron?) and button down shirts. I finally realized I need a good jacket so I can make my old Polo one my beater (retire my current North Face daily) and keep something nice for the weekends and events. I wish I had more of a budget to spend on outerwear to justify the higher prices of what I want. The closest I came was a black Howell peacoat but I already have another black one. That said early on I spent a good deal of money on knits that have been great, only exception is a Paul Smith one that is too thin to wear outside of early fall and mid to late spring. Footwear is another area I wish I put more focus and effort on as well.
Sup jet. Are there any Mrporter coupons? Thanks in advance.
Holy Hell I leave for a few hours for a nice dinner and come back to this! This is why we can't have nice things!
This is EXACTLY where I wanted this thread to go, something that took not so expensive pieces and used them in a fun and interesting way. I really would like more posts like these! Here is proof that "non baller" can still look pretty awesome when used correctly.
This seemed like a lot of blah blah blah to me but then I got to the bolded parts and immediately took it less seriously. This idolization of steve mcqueen must stop imho. As for your advice, I agree some heritage brands are good, Jet said basically the same thing recommending Invalerian knits
I don't get it, why do I NEED these? Im a pretty big minimalist and I don't see the NEED for more than two coats. That being said this is a forum about fashion, I don't think we really NEED any of this stuff
Some problems I see with this post. One, I don't prescribe to the made in USA stuff to be honest, If shit is made in the US thats cool, but I don't think its irresponsible to support some third world's economy either.
Second, I'm sure thrift stores in big cities are great... go to LaVale Maryland and try to find anything worth thrifting...
This is a great post and Its in the ideology of what I want for this thread.
This is the kind of shit stirring I like =) Takes balls to admit wearing express around here
I think one thing I have noticed on this forum is people lose a lot of creativity in WAYWT, when is the last time you saw someone wearing something thrifted that looked pretty cool, or the last time someone pulled something off like the chronoaug post on the first page? IDK if this would be a better or worse place with some kind of this creativity but I certainly would like to try it.
To the guy who said "flawed thread concept" What do you think is flawed? Id love some advice or even to know what you think is wrong, not a very helpful (or even funny) post otherwise.
I like the idea put out there that a few rare gems can be found at stores like the gap or whatever, I think thats what this thread is about.
Also, if you don't want to take the time to read a 6 page thread... at least read the first post
i agree with the post above regarding outerwear...fishtail and leather sounds might fine. or swap that fishtail with a hooded coat and i would be happy.
I think it's also worth bearing in mind what articles and types of clothing you do and don't care about. I have exactly one nice knit, because sweaters aren't really a priority for me right now and I rather like the cheap, thin AA cardigans I own. My actual winter jacket is a Gap car coat I got freshman year of college (so...10 or 11 years ago?), but I don't feel a desperate need to replace it because I almost never need to wear it, and there's nothing out there I've seen that I've wanted to buy enough to prioritize that purchase over other things. I don't own lace-up dress shoes, period. My trousers and the couple of suits I actually wear are all H&M. You get the idea. Instead, I'm thinking more about the couple of leather jackets and pairs of boots I'd like to get, because those things actually interest me, and I know I'll wear and enjoy them.
Footwear doesn't even have to be a big expenditure if you only want something that looks ok. OG GATs look pretty damn similar to Margiela GATs. Stan Smiths look pretty damn similar to CP Achilles. The only difference I know of between regular Chucks and CDG Chucks is the heart thingy. Even as far as "real" footwear is concerned, someone was saying earlier that Barney's Co-op brand was decent, and those shoes retail for $300 - $400 and are on sale now for around $150.
tl; dr - Buying less is almost always a good idea; buying "better" sometimes isn't. Sometimes good enough is good enough.
I feel like if you look for deals/sales, you can get designer and high-quality stuff at crazy pricepoints. I just got a Woolrich John Rich + Bros $1k duffle for $188 on sale, an Acne chambray for $50, etc. Better to get really nice stuff on sale occasionally than cheap shit that will fall apart in my opinion.
also, regarding outfits and clothes and waywt...sometimes some people just take better photos. i think that is a huge factor when you want to take others outfit into context and try to mimic it but feel like you "fail" or others tell you it looks bad.
sometimes i look at some waywt photos and think i can mimic the look, but obviously cannot afford the same clothing.
still should take a great photo and post it side by side of the "original" and see how it is before throwing the idea back to the chopping blocks.
Hey guys, I need a little help building up my wardrobes shirt wise.. I'm fifteen and looking for casual shirts to wear to school, all I have right now are Uniqlo tee's and hoodies haha. But I wanna pick up a couple shirts when I get on break next week. I'm located in NYC so I'll have access to pretty much everything. I'm thinking of hitting up stores like BB, Jcrew, Uniqlo and Club Monaco. Though I'm not sure where to start as in what types of shirts to get? Should I get oxfords, maybe a flannel and a couple of sweaters/cardigans? Basically what I'm asking is what types of shirts (as specific as possible and what fits) to get that'll go with APC PS's and desertboots/sneakers (plimsolls). Also I'm Asian, but not that scrawny so I don't think shirts from Gap will be good for me. Sorry if this was hard to understand I'm not too good at articulating my thoughts into words XD.
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