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The OCBD collar roll thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by srivats, Feb 7, 2010.

  1. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Goon member

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    Look how thick the contemporary BB collar is:

    [​IMG]

    compared to the thin, soft, and floppy collar of old:

    [​IMG]

    BBC, a shrinking collar was one of the common artifacts of continued wear. A lot of W.F. Buckley photos show this phenom, but it was a common thing among most of us who wore the old collar.


    - B
     


  2. srivats

    srivats Senior member

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    Look how thick the contemporary BB collar is:

    http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...an/OCBD1-1.jpg

    compared to the thin, soft, and floppy collar of old:

    http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/8922/bb002.jpg

    BBC, a shrinking collar was one of the common artifacts of continued wear. A lot of W.F. Buckley photos show this phenom, but it was a common thing among most of us who wore the old collar.


    Weren't the old BB collars compeltely unlined ? The newer ones definitely have some interlining ... don't know why.

    I'll see if I can get a good pic of my Mercer collars with a tie on.
     


  3. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Goon member

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    Weren't the old BB collars compeltely unlined ? The newer ones definitely have some interlining ... don't know why.

    I'll see if I can get a good pic of my Mercer collars with a tie on.


    I remember the old ones as being unlined. The BBBFs have a unfused interlining, similar I assume to other BB makes coming out of the Carolina factory.


    - B
     


  4. BBC

    BBC Senior member

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    Thanks, Vox - great info.

    Here's some more - I obviously enjoy vintage shirts [​IMG]

    Later Made in USA Gant (heavily lined) with locker loop
    [​IMG]

    mid-1990s BB pinpoint
    [​IMG]

    Vintage Hathaway (made in usa) pinpoint
    [​IMG]

    Vintage Sero
    [​IMG]

    LE Hyde Park
    [​IMG]

    BB pinpoint (made in USA)
    [​IMG]

    late 1990s BB
    [​IMG]
     


  5. srivats

    srivats Senior member

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    BBC, the vintage Sero and Hathaway ones have very nice rolls. They both have a pleasing liberty-bell shape to it with the tie that I really like. The LE hyde park is not bad either.

    I remember the old ones as being unlined. The BBBFs have a unfused interlining, similar I assume to other BB makes coming out of the Carolina factory.

    The only problem with BBBF is that the fabric is so beefy - maybe that is what is causing the "Eye-talian" look that Doc mentions. However, I like them for tie-less wear under a sweater.

    Here is a pic of a recent J. Press collar - from An affordable wardrobe. J. Press shirts are heavily fused. But notice the location of the buttonhole on the collar points.

    [​IMG]

    I *think* the below shirt is a older BB - notice location of buttonholes, and how floppy the collar is. Vox/BBC, what do you guys think?

    [​IMG]
     


  6. comrade

    comrade Senior member

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    Here is a pic of a recent J. Press collar - from An affordable wardrobe. J. Press shirts are heavily fused. But notice the location of the buttonhole on the collar points.

    [​IMG]

    As a disinterested party, who has not worn a BD since circa 1970, but who
    was a fanatic about roll during the IVY Golden years of the 50s and the 60s,
    the J Press shirt above exemplifies what I insisted upon, before I moved on
    to different collars.
     


  7. GuidoWongolini

    GuidoWongolini Senior member

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    [​IMG]
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  8. fritzl

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    I *think* the below shirt is a older BB - notice location of buttonholes, and how floppy the collar is. Vox/BBC, what do you guys think?

    [​IMG]


    i think it's too tight. nice buttons, btw
     


  9. crazyquik

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    Manton's CEGO nails it for me.

    One of my fave Brooks shirts was a popover, without dress shirt sizing (just small, medium, or large). Ha a great collar. Discontinued, of course.
     


  10. Parker

    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Those wider spread/longer Italian BD collars have grown on me. I used to think they looked weird.
     


  11. DocHolliday

    DocHolliday Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Those wider spread/longer Italian BD collars have grown on me. I used to think they looked weird.

    [​IMG]
     


  12. edmorel

    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    CEGO (my head is not that big!! It is camera distortion)

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    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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  14. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    You look so white in that picture, Ed.
     


  15. edmorel

    edmorel Quality Seller!! Dubiously Honored

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    You look so white in that picture, Ed.

    i'm using that whitening skin cream.
     


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