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The OCBD collar roll thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by srivats, Feb 7, 2010.

  1. comrade

    comrade Senior member

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    That is an ECHT button down!
    (Pardon my German)
     
  2. SHS

    SHS Senior member

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    Has anyone tried to get a tailor to put buttons on an existing shirt, making it a button down? I will ask my tailor tomorrow, but I would like to know if anyone thinks it can or can't be done.
     
  3. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    Unless the interlining is very light (which you really don't see on RTW shirts) it'll look a little wonky.
     
  4. SHS

    SHS Senior member

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    Thanks for the reply. I guess you are right. It's probably not worth the effort aesthetic wise or money wise. Perhaps a good excuse to get new shirts. :D
     
  5. aravenel

    aravenel Senior member

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    Yeah, I wouldn't try that. Also, the collar shape is a bit different I believe, so youre not likely to end up with something that looks particularly good.
     
  6. SHS

    SHS Senior member

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    Good point. I should have thought of these things myself. :embar:
     
  7. arnathor

    arnathor Senior member

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    I know this has to with a roll, and this BB hardly has one, but as I going to put this on I noticed the fraying and coming apart, I see this as a badge of honour, give it character that most casual clothing lacks!
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  8. Solosso

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    That's a lovely roll indeed.
     
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  9. BrooksLauren77

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    I don't know if this is oxford cloth exactly, but Paul Newman's shirt in Cat On A Hot Tin Roof


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  10. Solosso

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    At Solosso, we've recently been experimenting with different button-down collars with the intent to create a nice collar roll. My favorite outcome is this white Oxford with 8 cm collar tips and soft interlining. I like my casual shirts with contrast collar lining and button thread.

    Jan
     
  11. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    nice roll
    but
    aren't you tired of the contrast inner band lining yet?

    I have been over it for two years already
    I will make them if requested, but I never suggest it.
     
  12. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    :uhoh:
     
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  13. Solosso

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    There are a few I like. I think they work nicely with soft collars. I do not recommend them either on stiff fused collars which look best buttoned-up and with a tie anyway.
     
  14. arnathor

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    Any idea where one can acquire shirts with such a roll? Mercer, Kamakura?
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  15. superfishy8

    superfishy8 Well-Known Member

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    my best guess is mercer. having gotten a few kamakura shirts (including the vintage ivy ones with "better collar roll"), I have found that the kamakura button downs are still a little short compared to the voluminous mercer roll
     
  16. Cantabrigian

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    You can get a roll like the last one at any just about any mall.
     
  17. arnathor

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    I like how that elongated collar looks there, but from the looks of it, seems like it is a hidden button down.
     
  18. Katzenjamer

    Katzenjamer New Member

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    Excellent thread!

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    So, I may try BB made-to-measure in hopes of trying to replicate the OCBD collar roll of years gone by. Has anyone tried to get them to do this via MTM/custom? By asking if, for example, they might leave out the interfused collar lining? Or is that too "custom" for their made-to-measure?

    My other option is Kamakura - I live in the Upper East Side so the Manhattan shop is easy for me to visit. I'll do so this week.

    Mercer I like a lot in many respects, but I really don't like billowy shirts. Otherwise, the collar looks great. From what I hear, Mercer will just size down the body, and take it in a bit - but the shape is still not very fitted. I don't buy the myth floating around that the billowy room is more traditional wrt Ivy look/OCBD - I can provide loads of pics that say otherwise. Indeed, it seems to me that the billowy shirt thing came in when the waists/torso of Americans started to balloon out.

    Cheers,

    ~Katz
     
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  19. David Reeves

    David Reeves Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    Not an oxford but a fairly unusual roll.
     
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  20. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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