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The Newsroom (HBO)

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by suited, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. JoeTurner

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    Sorkin clearly recycles his topics (and lines), there are numerous sites and videos on youtube compiling the overlaps. But Sports Night was for the most part funny and smart, not taking itself as seriously as The Newsroom. The Newsroom is a caricature of Sports Night; it's as if Sorkin was making a parody of himself. Too bad.
     


  2. Rambo

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    No, you have it the other way around. Newsroom is the serious big brother of Sports Night. All the themes are still there though. The comedy is the same. The women are the same (Felicity Huffman vs the british woman). But this time, its serious because its about NOOZ, instead of silly old sports. That's what made Sports Night great: it could blend the funny and the serious at the same time. This show is having a serious problem with that. The glass door bit was a perfect example.
     


  3. JoeTurner

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    That's what I was trying to say. Sports Night did not take itself seriously, it was mostly light-hearted. But the Newsroom took every aspect of Sports Night and amplified it ten times: instead of seemingly balanced arguments about abstract themes (drugs, racism...) you get entirely biased arguments about real events and people; and instead of mild physical comedy, you have buffoonesque situations like the door-smashing, cell-stomping, Maggie's outbursts etc... It's all taken to the extreme.
     


  4. Fuuma

    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    I find this show entertaining but, yeah, deeply flawed chars they gotta fix, good topic though. They basically should ditch the sitcom overtones, stupid music over speeches everyone agrees with anyway and that don't mean a thing and work on dev the female characters, they have potential when succinctly described on paper (for example the economist should be the foil for economic right ideas not presented by morons and a more astute reader of people).
     


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    Fuuma Franchouillard Modasse

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    Now I enjoyed it too but because this is obviously an intentional angle that shows the show has potential, the people writing it aren't that clueless, they merely have to 1) remove most of the comedic an elements + accompanying clever quips and 2) really define what their centrist position is supposed to be and work from there (I am obviously not a centrist but I think they fail to really grasp what it means in the US). They should do an eps on the OWS using their tea party template.
     
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    Actually liked the last ep. The interview with the guy not identified by his blackness or gayness was really painful to watch.
     


  7. Gibonius

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    That was kind of silly in context. I don't watch a whole lot of TV news, but I can't really imagine a major news network anchor being such an enormous dick to a guest. Talk show things, sure, but a "news" program?
     


  8. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    Economics professor walks up and pokes the black man she doesn't know in the chest to feel his pecs? I swear he writes in the most misogynist manner possible.
     


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    Piob, you REALLY need to watch Sports Night as a template for this show. Its actually really good, so it won't feel like a complete waste of time.

    Ep wasn't bad. I didn't like the doctor going backwards context as it felt disjointed. Enjoyed Terry Crews. Hope he sticks around.
     


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    Brother, that Sam Watterson is horribly dreadful. And the former producer of this show now working on another show who's banging the daft-and-earnest eager beaver... whatta c*nt. Can't he stay in his own studio? The development of sideline blacks shows potential; they often out-do honkeys. The GTV Wonderwoman had some insightful insight on the Japs. They downplay things. Kick-ass platitude. What next? "Hai" doesn't always mean "yes"? A double positive can't equal a negative? Yeah yeah, tell me about it. Hey! What happened to my chesty-note-taker-in-conference-room love interest from last week?
     
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  11. Joffrey

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    Ha caught the last episode last night. As usual a lot of cringe worthy dialogue. Still don't get why all the females (except Jane Fonda? I skipped episode 3 )are written so dumb. The "2 phd economist" crashing and burning during the Fukushima segment was painful and eye roll worthy.
     


  12. runner-guy

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    I have a few thoughts on this show. First, I really liked The West Wing but this is like a boring version of it. Maybe it's me, but I don't really understand why the show covers news from a year ago. Second, while Daniels and the main cast are pretty good, the acting by some of the interview guests and minor characters is really not good. As others have mentioned, the interview with the black gay character was totally unrealistic. I really don't think this show will last long. It's just too dull.
     
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    Apparently it'll last a little longer since it's already been renewed for a second season.

    I wanted to cover my eyes when Sloan Sabbith just outed the power plant worker on what he said "off the record." I can't imagine any respectable journalist going on air and doing that, first time or not.
     


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    Am I the only one who focus more on the actors and actresses than the script?
    I actually like the face of the chife actress, but she seems to be a little bit weak in acting...
    idk if it's because I saw her in the film Young Adam earlier, which is abosutely the last thing I expected.
    A lot of tense love scene with Evan Mcgregor...kind of made me hard to accept her role in the Newsroom
    It's just I'm so ignorant about the current or past affairs in USA, the politics, the conspiracies...
    So I guess the relationship part, which you despise, is actually designed by the scriptwrither for viewers like me...
     


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    This started off really promising... shame... it's really gone downhill last two eps .... lots of cringe-worthy, try-hard shit

    tried to make all the characters 'colorful' ... most are just downright unconvincing

    serious is good, but no, we have to be funny too, in fact no, let's not stop there ... let's make this show all things to all people

    Oh, and that crap Maggie and Don pulled, setting up the dude with ex-roommate ... dunno, find that kind of manipulation repulsive .. fiction I know, but still :satisfied:
     


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