marc237
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the clemens accusation, while not entirely surprising, is huge since it jeopardizes his chances as a first ballot HOFer. Reports say that he started around '99, about the same time as Bonds. I would contend that both had HOF worthy careers before they started using but I would be bothered if they made it on the first ballot.
Yeah, but he got about 120 wins (1/3) of the total from 99-07. In other words, about 1/3 of his wins happened after age 36. This is a clearly a testament to effective use of chemicals. Nothing takes away from the enormous talent base that he built upon.
I am with Costas in that I would judge him compared to others in his era. The issue for me is whether Clemens performed well in the steroid era. However, the steroids certainly slam the door on intergenerational comparisons.