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Regarding brogues, I have been looking at Crockett and Jones Pembroke on their site.

They have two Scotch grain versions with Dainite soles. Dark brown and tan. They also have three cordovan version with leather soles. Dark brown, no.8 burgundy and whisky.

I would be interested to see them in the shop. I am not sure how light whisky shell is in daylight.

Cordovan is £200 plus more than grain with a leather sole but not channeled soles. So grain will be more comfortable and I am not sure which shoe will look best.

Pembroke seems the best of the heavier Northampton brogues around at the moment.
 

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My point is that such a lovely suit needs the best shoes to go with it. Black is the sensible colour. I don’t see black Oxfords as necessarily retired army officer - City worker maybe.
Again, I agree with black Oxfords better going along a blue pinstripe. It was the British Warm + blue suit + black Oxfords that reminded me of some pics I saw (with a black bowler too!). Next time I'll wear toecaps though (with a different overcoat), as they actually fir better with the suit.
I don't like bucket hats. As a spectacle wearer I might appreciate them under the rain, but still not enough to wear them.
 

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Regarding brogues, I have been looking at Crockett and Jones Pembroke on their site.

They have two Scotch grain versions with Dainite soles. Dark brown and tan. They also have three cordovan version with leather soles. Dark brown, no.8 burgundy and whisky.

I would be interested to see them in the shop. I am not sure how light whisky shell is in daylight.

Cordovan is £200 plus more than grain with a leather sole but not channeled soles. So grain will be more comfortable and I am not sure which shoe will look best.

Pembroke seems the best of the heavier Northampton brogues around at the moment.
I have often looked at C & J online and in their shops but never bought a pair. The Pembroke do look nice. Not bad value either when compared to Church’s or EG.

For years I have been looking for a pair of low Chelsea boots like I wore in 1964 / 65. and C & J do them, but all with rather elongated toes.
 

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I have often looked at C & J online and in their shops but never bought a pair. The Pembroke do look nice. Not bad value either when compared to Church’s or EG.

For years I have been looking for a pair of low Chelsea boots like I wore in 1964 / 65. and C & J do them, but all with rather elongated toes.
Short Chelsea boots are likely to get caught on your hems even more frequently than normal sized ones.
I was in the C and J shop in New York once and tried on a bunch of different chelseas as they have several styles. Couldn’t get any of them to feel right and for $680 decided to pass.
If you move beyond ‘contemplation’ to ‘action’ on the trans-theoretical model, make sure you try them on rather than play the internet shoe size lottery!
 

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Short Chelsea boots are likely to get caught on your hems even more frequently than normal sized ones.
I was in the C and J shop in New York once and tried on a bunch of different chelseas as they have several styles. Couldn’t get any of them to feel right and for $680 decided to pass.
If you move beyond ‘contemplation’ to ‘action’ on the trans-theoretical model, make sure you try them on rather than play the internet shoe size lottery!
Good points @Thin White Duke !

No, I would certainly not buy a new make / style of shoe online any more after one or two disappointments. The Bass weejuns in Horween leather come to mind. They started at £300 and I bought them at 60% discount. They were made for Mr Porter. On arrival I was disappointed. They felt wide and ‘baggy’ and not especially well put together. When I was in Washington DC I was wearing them in a shoe shop that specialises in shoes for people who need extra support. They recommended a type of inner sole to take up the slack. It worked but at $50 the shoes no longer seemed a bargain 😀
 

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Good points @Thin White Duke !

No, I would certainly not buy a new make / style of shoe online any more after one or two disappointments. The Bass weejuns in Horween leather come to mind. They started at £300 and I bought them at 60% discount. They were made for Mr Porter. On arrival I was disappointed. They felt wide and ‘baggy’ and not especially well put together. When I was in Washington DC I was wearing them in a shoe shop that specialises in shoes for people who need extra support. They recommended a type of inner sole to take up the slack. It worked but at $50 the shoes no longer seemed a bargain 😀
Yeah I have similar tales of woe!

And I have several shoes which given the chance to try on in person may have picked a different size or may have passed on altogether like I did with the c and j chelseas, but sometimes the cost of returns isn’t worth it so they either get doctored up with adjustments like yours or else go on eBay.

I have a pair of navy suede AE Cavanaughs (penny loafers) which are a really nice looking shoe but couldn’t get them to fit. At the same time they’re too long / loose in the heel and too short in the toes. Did a bit of internet research and found this to be a common result so they’re up for sale.

Replaced those with navy Milan pennies from Shipton and Heneage which aren’t as good looking but at least they fit OK!

But I’m a sucker for an apparent bargain and threw down for two choices in the current Meermin penny loafer custom offering. I’ll report back here when they arrive in May if things worked out or if I’ve been suckered again!
 

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British warm is more casual, almost country attire. Cap should definitely go. A Harris tweed bucket hat in a light colour might work better with a British Warm and it is a hat that does not scream ‘hat’ so it is easier to wear.
I think a jaunty-angled Alpine hat with a feather would suit a British Warm

 
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@Kingstonian you're right - a black Homburg definitely clashes with everything but the most formal overcoat. In retrospective I should have picked a gray one, at least. Yet I managed to come to a point where I'm not hat-conscious at all and wear it with confidence.
Furthermore I rely on the fact that in my zone very few wear a hat, almost no one a good hat and none at all an Homburg, so its incongruence with the whole rig goes unnoticed.
I even earned some dandy points among my acquaintances. Oh well - gallus in suo sterquilinio ...
I appreciate your feedback.
 

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@Kingstonian you're right - a black Homburg definitely clashes with everything but the most formal overcoat. In retrospective I should have picked a gray one, at least. Yet I managed to come to a point where I'm not hat-conscious at all and wear it with confidence.
Furthermore I rely on the fact that in my zone very few wear a hat, almost no one a good hat and none at all an Homburg, so its incongruence with the whole rig goes unnoticed.
I even earned some dandy points among my acquaintances. Oh well - gallus in suo sterquilinio ...
I appreciate your feedback.
I like the hat on you @Luigi_M but, yes a softer colour perhaps.

Funny how wearing formal clothes makes some people react nowadays. Yesterday was my formal Friday and I went shopping in the afternoon. I was addressed as ‘Sir’ on a number of occasions. Wearing a Harrington it would be ‘mate’ 😀
 

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Funny how wearing formal clothes makes some people react nowadays. Yesterday was my formal Friday and I went shopping in the afternoon. I was addressed as ‘Sir’ on a number of occasions. Wearing a Harrington it would be ‘mate’ 😀
Very true. Even a tailored jacket can do the trick. Added gravitas. Old age on its own is not sufficient.
 

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