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I’ve seen a lot of old pics (mods/skins) where they turn them up inside like a normal hem to make them sit above or on the ankle.
Not a look you ever see now .
The outside turn ups are more rocker / 50’s style .
The new craze for turn ups only started about 20 years ago with the rise of the vintage/ repro denim .
In the 90’s turn ups made you look a bit odd.

I like a small turn up myself never more than 1/2 inch , but an thinking about going for the hemmed look now for a change .
 

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Well yes i can understand that. My jeans are a mix of with and without turn-ups, i told it before, my personal preference is without turn-ups with a Sport Coat/Blazer, with turn-ups with a harrington, but some items can go along with both.
My choice is radical as the ones with turn-ups i have, have sewn turn-ups, like on those :

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My 3 pairs of selvedge 501's, I washed to shrink first and then ironed in the turn ups. The Lee 101's say not to wash on the label and dry clean only, what are your experiences with these, as I can't be arsed dry cleaning, and don't want a smelly crotch!!😫
 

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My 3 pairs of selvedge 501's, I washed to shrink first and then ironed in the turn ups. The Lee 101's say not to wash on the label and dry clean only, what are your experiences with these, as I can't be arsed dry cleaning, and don't want a smelly crotch!!😫
Yes they say that on the Lee 101s Europe ! (I've got two, a 101z like yours, but not in Japanese denim, and a Riders in Cone Mills.)
IIRC what they say was to dry clean so they keep their dry/raw aspect. Lees are known to be sanforized, but now some dry/raw ones are unsanforized, so they tend to shrink and to change aspect/look.
It depends how's the fit of yours, if they are a bit big/wide, just wash them normally (but no more than 30 degrees). If they are fitted you should probably dry clean them.
My 101z were a bit wide, so i just washed them at 30 degrees.
My Riders were more fitted, and they had a great color, so i waited the maximum before first wash. When i washed them, i hand washed in cold water, and with no tumble, to have the minimum shrinkage.

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Two Lee Riders : on the left a Japanese Archive one, sanforized.
On the right an Europe one in Cone Mills denim, unsanforized. That's the one i hand washed cold. He changed aspect after the first wash, this is how he looks now (after numerous wash) :
Lee E.jpg
 

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Lots happening in the last few days while I have not really been paying attention.

Some seriously ugly shoes. I still can't be sure this isn't all a piss-take...

Someone on a forum about clothes going out of their way to provide evidence of not buying clothes @covskin :-D

Sunspel - I started wearing their boxer shorts in the mid-1970s. Trousers were becoming more generously cut then and boxers seemed just right. Today, I am going back to them as trousers become rather looser again around the balls. I have a few of their cotton roll necks too.

But @dopeman did Robert Elms really say that? In 'The Way We Wore'? I recall he said something like this (also seen on the Sunspel website):

'I always keep two or three pairs of Sunspel underpants in their packets in my drawer. Because if you’ve got those, you know your life is in order- that you haven’t used up all your resources. If you need it, you’ve got a perfect pair of pristine underpants to put on that day that will make you feel good.'

Selvedge jeans and turn-ups - I am also moving away from turn-ups on jeans. Apart from it all looking a bit 'contrived' they give the impression of foreshortening the leg - which I need to avoid.

Another great haul @Yorky I am very envious of your TK Maxx branches.
 

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Yes they say that on the Lee 101s Europe ! (I've got two, a 101z like yours, but not in Japanese denim, and a Riders in Cone Mills.)
IIRC what they say was to dry clean so they keep their dry/raw aspect. Lees are known to be sanforized, but now some dry/raw ones are unsanforized, so they tend to shrink and to change aspect/look.
It depends how's the fit of yours, if they are a bit big/wide, just wash them normally (but no more than 30 degrees). If they are fitted you should probably dry clean them.
My 101z were a bit wide, so i just washed them at 30 degrees.
My Riders were more fitted, and they had a great color, so i waited the maximum before first wash. When i washed them, i hand washed in cold water, and with no tumble, to have the minimum shrinkage.

View attachment 1343234
Two Lee Riders : on the left a Japanese Archive one, sanforized.
On the right an Europe one in Cone Mills denim, unsanforized. That's the one i hand washed cold. He changed aspect after the first wash, this is how he looks now (after numerous wash) :
View attachment 1343235
Thanks Inspector, they are sanforized, and fit how I like them.
 

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Thanks Inspector, they are sanforized, and fit how I like them.
So i think machine wash at 30 degrees with light tumble will be good.

I was like you a "Levi's only" guy in the time, but now i love as much Lee than Levi's, and i find that nowadays Lee quality (Europe or Japan) is FAR better than Levi's.
 

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So i think machine wash at 30 degrees with light tumble will be good.

I was like you a "Levi's only" guy in the time, but now i love as much Lee than Levi's, and i find that nowadays Lee quality (Europe or Japan) is FAR better than Levi's.
👍
 

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Some seriously ugly shoes. I still can't be sure this isn't all a piss-take...
If you are referring to my Mephisto Rainbow MrK, this is a live pic i just took !
Just back from sports hence the joggers, the rainbows are a replacement for my NB sneakers i used to train with...

Rainbow live !.jpg

They're ugly and i like it ! :p
More serioulsly - i will only wear them for sports or long walks.
 

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If you are referring to my Mephisto Rainbow MrK, this is a live pic i just took !
Just back from sports hence the joggers, the rainbows are a replacement for my NB sneakers i used to train with...

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They're ugly and i like it ! :p
Moore serioulsly - i will only wear them for sports or long walks.
Arghhh...They are real :-D
 

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So i think machine wash at 30 degrees with light tumble will be good.

I was like you a "Levi's only" guy in the time, but now i love as much Lee than Levi's, and i find that nowadays Lee quality (Europe or Japan) is FAR better than Levi's.
I've been living in Europe for the past three years and was blown away to see a Lee store in a shopping center. Growing up in the states, Lee was a brand synonymous with being cheap. It was a brand that lower class people wore, very "uncool" and would get you made fun of for sure. So as you can imagine, seeing a full blown Lee store really blew my mind. Also to read threads like this one where claims are made of how great a brand Lee is and their quality is Far superior to Levis is just hard for me to process.
 

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I've been living in Europe for the past three years and was blown away to see a Lee store in a shopping center. Growing up in the states, Lee was a brand synonymous with being cheap. It was a brand that lower class people wore, very "uncool" and would get you made fun of for sure. So as you can imagine, seeing a full blown Lee store really blew my mind. Also to read threads like this one where claims are made of how great a brand Lee is and their quality is Far superior to Levis is just hard for me to process.
Yes i know that ! Lee in US now are considered very cheap, and they only do terrible "comfy" models you buy in Kmarts style shops. But not the same here, they are the second historical brand after Levi's, and Lee 101s Europe and Lee Archive Japan are serious business. You have to get used to it ! ;)

BUT Lee USA did a couple of years ago a limited edition 101z dry selvedge anniversary model that cost an arm and a leg...
Here it is (Made in USA of course)
Lee USA 101z-kcdry.jpg
 

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Also to read threads like this one where claims are made of how great a brand Lee is and their quality is Far superior to Levis is just hard for me to process.
Well next time you see a Lee shop, have a look at their 101s series and compare them to Levi's... You will probably be surprised.
Seriously, nowadays Levi's is serious s...
 

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Yes i know that ! Lee in US now are considered very cheap, and they only do terrible "comfy" models you buy in Kmarts style shops. But not the same here, they are the second historical brand after Levi's, and Lee 101s Europe and Lee Archive Japan are serious business. You have to get used to it ! ;)

BUT Lee USA did a couple of years ago a limited edition 101z dry selvedge anniversary model that cost an arm and a leg...
Here it is (Made in USA of course)
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These look very similar to something I ordered from BraveStar, Though it's hard for me to get away from that cheap mental image I have of Lee overall. Maybe I will hit the mall this weekend and have a look just for kicks.
 

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