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You turn your back on the thread for five minutes and all this happens!

@Jimmy Balantyne I like it! How do you describe that particular style?

I was going to ask about winter hats as my own hat game is very poor. I wear hats and caps with less formal styles but not with suit and tie normally.

Which hats do you guys wear in winter?

I haven’t got a lot to add to the discussion about jeans and alternatives and the decline of the suit, I am afraid. I would say that while we need to be conscious of aging, we should not let it become our master.
It's a black Panama. It's got a bit of a Spanish vibe which is difficult to explain/describe. Most of my hats are Newsboy caps. There's a brown Trilby and a Woolrich red and black hunting cap with flaps for the ears. In the depths of winter, it's life-saver. It takes a bit of front to carry off a hat. Caps are easy but hats man... different story.
 

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Good topic Mister K.
I saw a pic of you sporting that bucket hat recently and I think it aged you. Was reaching for a reference point in films or something and came up empty. Alec Guinness as George Smiley maybe? Anyway most of your gear could be worn by any well dressed fella from late teenage to your current vintage but a tweed bucket hat is firmly the sphere of ... ‘mature gents’.

I recently got a rust brown wool felt fedora to wear with my chesterfield coat on cold days. 2 1/4 inch brim. Water resistant. Crushable if it needs to be packed but I’d rather not do that! Off to Chicago next week so it may be deployed soon.
 

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The other problem is that you run this risk of an unruly fifteen-year-old, knocking it off. My wife claims this fear is based on the fact that it's the sort of thing I'd have done... She may have a point. Incidentally, Fly-front who used to post on here mentioned, possibly on another forum, how people used to spray their hair silver or gold. In this... it's silver.

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Good topic Mister K.
I saw a pic of you sporting that bucket hat recently and I think it aged you. Was reaching for a reference point in films or something and came up empty. Alec Guinness as George Smiley maybe? Anyway most of your gear could be worn by any well dressed fella from late teenage to your current vintage but a tweed bucket hat is firmly the sphere of ... ‘mature gents’.

I recently got a rust brown wool felt fedora to wear with my chesterfield coat on cold days. 2 1/4 inch brim. Water resistant. Crushable if it needs to be packed but I’d rather not do that! Off to Chicago next week so it may be deployed soon.
Chicago....Fedora....Chesterfield coat....surely an Al Capone convention ? will you carry a violin case ?

I have a Tweed bucket hat for very cold dry days, a Failsworth Grouse hat blue Harris Tweed,I saw Sean Connery wearing one once in a film,however I think that I look more like one of the Wurzels in mine.
 

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I have a couple of waxed cotton caps by Failsworth / Earland bros made from Halley Stevensons waxed cotton material,nice caps in the rain and they seem breathable too.
In fact I have been so impressed that I am watching out for a jacket made from the same material,Fred Perry have made jackets from HS material in the past as have many more famous names.

A problem recently with caps is people saying about Peaky Blinders, now I was quite surprised that most people even knew about Peaky Blinders, anyway I then found out (I should have guessed) that there is a TV series about them.
Now of course any time someone is seen wearing a cap there will be a Peaky Blinders comment,20 years ago it would have been Victor Meldrew....
 

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I have a couple of waxed cotton caps by Failsworth / Earland bros made from Halley Stevensons waxed cotton material,nice caps in the rain and they seem breathable too.
In fact I have been so impressed that I am watching out for a jacket made from the same material,Fred Perry have made jackets from HS material in the past as have many more famous names.

A problem recently with caps is people saying about Peaky Blinders, now I was quite surprised that most people even knew about Peaky Blinders, anyway I then found out (I should have guessed) that there is a TV series about them.
Now of course any time someone is seen wearing a cap there will be a Peaky Blinders comment,20 years ago it would have been Victor Meldrew....
I get this on a regular basis mainly from people who are in their early 20s, even though nothing about the rest of my outfit says 1920s, its not like flat caps are not an uncommon sight round here either, maybe its cos im 30 and wearing one rather than 60+, annoying either way.


Wool trousers will require a lot more care than jeans though. I do have jeans - Wranglers MWZ13 ‘cowboy cut’ guaranteed not to reveal builders bum. They are reasonably priced and handy for chores where other trousers might get damaged. At this time of year, moleskin and 8 wale cords are nice and warm and don’t get damaged by moths.
Can vouch for em, been wearing them for 4 years now rather than levis. Never looked back. Find them more comfortable too.

This is typical of my winter hat style - all pretty casual.

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Bucket hat made in Scotland and branded ‘3 Cavaliers’, Bates, DAKS house check
They look good Mr K, would wear all 3 of em, i have a failsworth like the flat cap on the right, real nice quality.
 

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Not really season appropriate, but i recently had a conversation with @cerneabbas about Tshirts with logos.
The only logo i can stand is the FP one. I have 4 plain Tshirts.

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The navy one is quite old, it has an interesting detail : the Fred Perry signature embroidered on the sleeve. It was a limited edition i bought at JD sports something like 14 years ago...
 

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I have heard Victor Meldrew comments when I was in Manchester where it rains a lot. I had an Aquascutum single breasted beige mac and a flat cap and I am old. So it was fair comment. Expectation and reality again. That said, some of Victor’s kit looks pretty good to me.

Bucket hats can be handy because they keep rain off spectacles better than many caps but can be folded and stuffed in a pocket too.
Other hats are a complete minefield and I would not go there (summer Panama excepted). Look at Fedora Lounge for justification of this point of view.
 

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My two cents / pence:

I don’t think there’s necessarily an upper age limit for jeans and trainers. They CAN look good at any age it’s the choices that are important. A lot of blokes get to a certain age and they’re wearing washed out baggy flaccid jeans and comfortable orthopedic style trainers which is a bad advert for the look. I’m a frequent wearer of dark fitted jeans and gazelles / sambas / stan smiths.

I mentioned in my recent blog post that I’m wearing jeans less these days simply coz I’m a bit bored with them. I have four pairs of dark blue selvedge jeans - two Levis and two Uniqlo and I’m happy to have achieved my mission of not wearing them at all over the summer but I have had them on a couple of times in recent weeks.

I also have two white jeans and a few assorted colours of five pocket cotton strides (Levis 511 ‘Commuters’). I neither like, nor own, nor desire to own, nor have a need for moleskins or cords.

Anything higher than the above on a formality scale would mean either sta pressts or linen strides for me, which I wear a lot in the hot Florida summers.

I need to join the harrington challenge and since there’s a bit of an anti jeans undercurrent I’m trying to decide what non jeans would look good with mine.
Lots of older folk wear jeans because they are perceived as low maintenance and comfortable. Track suit bottoms are the next step for some of this view.

However other oldies do take interest in jeans but still get it wrong. Drainpipe trousers don’t work for most oldies unless they are built like John Cooper Clarke. If you are carrying a lot of weight it just looks like mutton dressed as lamb.
 

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Looks very Dunn & Co.
The whole thing or the bucket hat? If the latter, I have been wondering where it may have originated. Unlike my other hats / caps which I bought new, I got it from a charity shop. It seemed unworn.

I tend to agree that hats of all types can have the effect of aging. Mrs K also says that, apart from my Panama, they don’t really suit me! I think it was Cary Grant who, early in his career decided ‘no more hats’. It’s even mentioned in The Bishop’s Wife. Perhaps I should follow his example 😃
 

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The whole thing or the bucket hat? If the latter, I have been wondering where it may have originated. Unlike my other hats / caps which I bought new, I got it from a charity shop. It seemed unworn.

I tend to agree that hats of all types can have the effect of aging. Mrs K also says that, apart from my Panama, they don’t really suit me! I think it was Cary Grant who, early in his career decided ‘no more hats’. It’s even mentioned in The Bishop’s Wife. Perhaps I should follow his example 😃
Well you have the guts to try Mr K.
I agree that a flat cap is much easier to wear than a hat, i don't even try TBH.
I am tempted for a while by the Ivy Style Rain hats though, but i can't find them here, and i would like to try one on. Last time i went to Brooks Brothers in London they didn't stock them, they were only on their website.
So it's flat caps for me, very happy with my last acquisition, a Failsworth waxed cap.
 

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I have a couple of waxed cotton caps by Failsworth / Earland bros made from Halley Stevensons waxed cotton material,nice caps in the rain and they seem breathable too.
In fact I have been so impressed that I am watching out for a jacket made from the same material,Fred Perry have made jackets from HS material in the past as have many more famous names.

A problem recently with caps is people saying about Peaky Blinders, now I was quite surprised that most people even knew about Peaky Blinders, anyway I then found out (I should have guessed) that there is a TV series about them.
Now of course any time someone is seen wearing a cap there will be a Peaky Blinders comment,20 years ago it would have been Victor Meldrew....
Yes, an added annoyance. Like you I knew the history of the West Midlands gangs but was not aware of the tv series until recently - I don’t watch much telly...
 

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