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“Not having fully lived the lifestyle”?
I have no idea how you come to that conclusion or what it’s supposed to mean in the context of me trying to explain the ‘logic’ behind my opinion.
‘Coherence’ is not a set of rules but is an explanation of why certain combinations of clothes ‘work’ and others don’t. Anyone can choose to accept or reject the idea but you could think of coherence as a way to apply objective reasoning to what is in many ways a subjective way of thinking. “I like that outfit” ... “I don’t like that outfit” - yeah, but why?
As for ‘rules’ - that subject is debated ad nauseum on here. I don’t believe I’m strictly bound by any rules, there are just certain conventions I choose to accept and others I don’t. I suppose we’re all like that in some way. You suggested wearing a tie with a button down. I said no - not because I’m bound by any ‘rule’ about this, I just subjectively think it looks crap. Certain combinations of clothing items cause us to viscerally reject them - in some cases it may just be a subjective reflexive reaction, in others as I stated above there may be some personal logic behind it.
BTW Crombie with jeans and boots never looked good to me - Crombie with chunky brogues and two tone strides looked great. Marriot looks crap in that picture above but I can’t stand canvas plimsoles in any context. Again, aside from my personal prejudice of disliking scruffy cheap looking canvas gym shoes, it looks discordant (i.e. incoherent) to be wearing them with tailored strides. The likes of GQ have been pushing us for some time now to wear shoes like these with suits and there was a long thread about it on CM a few months back but I can’t remember many/any examples of it looking good. YMMV as they say on here.
By living the lifestyle, I mean, experiencing everything that goes with the look. Seeing people who try to push the look but keeping it sensible, going up and down the country to allnighters, weekenders ( staying up all weekend) DJing, dancing, etc etc. Some of the geezers I have met over the years could piss on most of the people who post on some of the style forum threads, they didn't even have to try.
You seem to live an online life, where on another website you seem to have different views to posters, e.g. A Spanish guy who dresses like a grandad and always wears a bad flat cap.
 

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Like that FP Mr K, FP have done some nice collaborations over the years, and different variations on the standard polo. I had ironed the top below before reading your post. I decided not to photograph myself wearing it as my skinny white ankles seem to upset certain people. I also have one in white and blue, but would have liked one in a white/green colourway.

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I like that. I can’t quite make out the label on my iPhone - is that a Comme?
 

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I remember just how great the Small Faces looked in their early days (before they discovered drugs) - quite different from any other bands at the time.

Yes, we all have our own take on what I loosely called 'The Look' (for want of a better term). Some of the style references in my wardrobe today definitely owe more to the 1980s than the late 60s. The penny loafer with shorts was a strong look in the late 80s in my area. By then the 'plain man' had started to adopt the more expected Timberlands, so what better way to respond than to wear a combination that is harder to 'get' - even though it may look a little outré :-D
The Small Faces always took drugs even in their typically Mod days. They recorded their first Decca album live on acid but Kenny Jones went for speed.
 

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I like that. I can’t quite make out the label on my iPhone - is that a Comme?
No it's just a bog standard FP from about 6 years ago. The FP outlet shop in York always used to have samples in. I have a madras type patterned monkey jacket, that I bought from there years ago, quite subtle and hardly ever wear it, the shop assistant told me that they had some matching shorts, I just nodded and gave him a steely stare. Now that would have got some comments on here, especially if I wore them with tasseled weejuns!!!😝
 
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Some interesting opinions and choices on the last few pages,for me
I didn't like the Crombie/jeans/boots look
I do like a plain,light coloured BD with a tie
Plimsolls no
Trainers not any more
Espadrilles no
Baggy polo shirts no
Loafers with shorts no (Moccasin type boat shoes for me)
Music no
Drugs no
 

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They have more 'outré' offerings a la EG (patchwork, color block, etc), but they are all in Uniqlo 'Dry' material (polycotton) that i don't like… They have a slimmer fit.
For the price, material, overall quality, and the label, i think the oversized cotton ones are great value.
No it's just a bog standard FP from about 6 years ago. The FP outlet shop in York always used to have samples in. I have a madras type patterned monkey jacket, that I bought from there years ago, quite subtle and hardly ever wear it, the shop assistant told me that they had some matching shorts, I just nodded and gave him a steely stare. Now that would have got some comments on here, especially if I wore them with tasseled weejuns!!!😝
Two days ago i went to a trendy parisian store, looking for Stan Ray fatigue shorts. They didn't had any in that shop, and one of the youngest salesman showed me a striped/pinstripe (blue and white)awful LEE short, skinny style, telling me it was the same style! i was close to slap him in the face, and just gave him the steely stare and a 'NO !' in a Clouseau voice when he is searching where Kato is hiding.
Fakin'hipsters. :-D
 

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Some interesting opinions and choices on the last few pages,for me
I didn't like the Crombie/jeans/boots look
I do like a plain,light coloured BD with a tie
Plimsolls no
Trainers not any more
Espadrilles no
Baggy polo shirts no
Loafers with shorts no (Moccasin type boat shoes for me)
Music no
Drugs no
Yes to baggy polo shirts ! :laugh: They have an advantage when it's hot, you don't feel the same heat than with a fitted one.
 

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Some interesting opinions and choices on the last few pages,for me
I didn't like the Crombie/jeans/boots look
I do like a plain,light coloured BD with a tie
Plimsolls no
Trainers not any more
Espadrilles no
Baggy polo shirts no
Loafers with shorts no (Moccasin type boat shoes for me)
Music no
Drugs no
 

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You mean that you don't like music?
 

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You mean that you don't like music?
That's right,music is on a long list of things that I don't like,if I don't like it I avoid it,unfortunately music is everywhere now even in the changing rooms at the gym FFS.
 

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Yes to baggy polo shirts ! :laugh: They have an advantage when it's hot, you don't feel the same heat than with a fitted one.
I agree about the baggy/loose cut being better for keeping cool BUT those polos are Jersey, now that material is definitely not so good for hot weather as Pique,ok it looks better (imo) but those tennis shirts were made from Pique cotton for a good reason.
I tend to wear short sleeve shirts in this way
Warm-Jersey cotton SS polo
Warmer-Pique cotton SS polo
Warmer still- SS cotton BD
Hot- Madras SS BD

I know that we mention this every summer but it definitely seems to be getting warmer,typically I am wearing SS polos in April/May and end of September/October, this year it has been too hot for Pique SS polos in May and I have been wearing SS cotton BDs.

On the SS OCBD's,I wanted a Lavender or Lilac colour for a change, the Gitman which was my first choice is about £150 (ish) here.
I saw some in M&S a few months back but they didn't look that good,however I was in there again last week and I saw some marked 'improved fit' for £17.50.
So I bought one,Lavender (got a compliment on the colour from a young lady !) SS OCBD,made in India,back button on collar and locker loop.
The collar is a tight 2 finger and will be too small for many on here,I like the J Crew SS OCBD and the M&S collar is .5cm smaller than the JC.
Like a lot of SS shirts at the moment the sleeve length is a bit too short for me.
The shirt feels quite cool at the moment and I think that for the price its a good buy as a very casual summer shirt,I didn't really like the other colours or I would have bought more.
btw the J Crew SS OCBD which is about the same quality but with a slightly bigger collar and no back button or locker loop is £67 here now....and most other SS OCBDs have a 1 finger collar.
 

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That's right,music is on a long list of things that I don't like,if I don't like it I avoid it,unfortunately music is everywhere now even in the changing rooms at the gym FFS.
I agree about the baggy/loose cut being better for keeping cool BUT those polos are Jersey, now that material is definitely not so good for hot weather as Pique,ok it looks better (imo) but those tennis shirts were made from Pique cotton for a good reason.
I tend to wear short sleeve shirts in this way
Warm-Jersey cotton SS polo
Warmer-Pique cotton SS polo
Warmer still- SS cotton BD
Hot- Madras SS BD

I know that we mention this every summer but it definitely seems to be getting warmer,typically I am wearing SS polos in April/May and end of September/October, this year it has been too hot for Pique SS polos in May and I have been wearing SS cotton BDs.

On the SS OCBD's,I wanted a Lavender or Lilac colour for a change, the Gitman which was my first choice is about £150 (ish) here.
I saw some in M&S a few months back but they didn't look that good,however I was in there again last week and I saw some marked 'improved fit' for £17.50.
So I bought one,Lavender (got a compliment on the colour from a young lady !) SS OCBD,made in India,back button on collar and locker loop.
The collar is a tight 2 finger and will be too small for many on here,I like the J Crew SS OCBD and the M&S collar is .5cm smaller than the JC.
Like a lot of SS shirts at the moment the sleeve length is a bit too short for me.
The shirt feels quite cool at the moment and I think that for the price its a good buy as a very casual summer shirt,I didn't really like the other colours or I would have bought more.
btw the J Crew SS OCBD which is about the same quality but with a slightly bigger collar and no back button or locker loop is £67 here now....and most other SS OCBDs have a 1 finger collar.
I will forgive you about the two finger collar, because of the price. I've got a GAP ss Madras that is really nice, but the collar is on the small side too. But it's in real Indian Madras cloth and i like it. I got a JCrew ss Madras that i bought in the sales, but at 50% off it was still more expensive than the GAP Madras at full price, and the cloth is from Mauritius !

When it's HOT +, sorry mate but only TShirt left. Heresy (again) i know…
 

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