As I was fitting a customer for the length of his jacket sleeves, I asked him to not pull his thumb away because I measured from the end of the thumb to acheive the right measurement. He asked me if that was were the expression " Rule of Thumb" originated. I responded that I was unsure but knew were I could get the answer. Well............... Also, because the Forum has such a diverse membership from around the world, I'm sure that there are clothing terms and expressions that others would not understand, such as what a turn up is. Manton, could please chime in on this one. I think it could be fun. All others, please.