• We would like to welcome American Trench as an official Affiliate Vendor. American Trench is a Philadelphia based outerwear, apparel, and accessories brand, making all of its products in the United States at (mostly) family owned factories. . Please visit the American Trench thread and welcome them to the forum.

  • STYLE. COMMUNITY. GREAT CLOTHING.

    Bored of counting likes on social networks? At Styleforum, you’ll find rousing discussions that go beyond strings of emojis.

    Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today!

The Japanese Repro Clothing Thread (Real McCoys, Freewheelers, Etc.)

Mghart

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jul 28, 2014
Messages
1,501
Reaction score
1,609
I’m not speaking from a CM perspective and I’m specifically addressing Japanese workwear / repro clothing.

A lot of the outfits here are simply not flattering and seem to be, I presume, more about love for the clothes than a pursuit of aesthetics or style. Take for example the relatively relaxed cut of the pants and jeans that appear prevalent. They can maybe work if you are super skinny, but on everyone else they just make legs look like stumpy tree trunks. Similarly, the tops often tend to be too narrow in the shoulders and either too tight or too loose around the gut. Why would anyone want this? In combination, the wearer winds up looking fatter and sloppier than he needs to.

I suspect part of the problem is that the clothes are not cut for the larger Western frame and folks are just trying to squeeze into whatever size spatially accommodates, even if the resulting silhouette is all fucked up.
I'm sure there's a lot of truths there certainly. Speaking only for myself, I'll only wear fuller cut trousers predominantly out of comfort, but I'll also enjoy those types of silhouettes more. I definitely have a longer torso and shorter legs, but the proportions have never bothered me. I wouldn't consider myself all that skinny either.

As you mention, shirting is an issue with a lot of japanese brands as they do tend to run smaller shoulder and chest wise than a comparable US, maybe even EU brand. This ranges wildly from brand to brand however and perhaps others can chime in as I mostly buy from one brand that generally runs closer to TTS.
 
  • Like
Reactions: XWT

TheFoo

THE FOO
Dubiously Honored
Joined
Feb 11, 2007
Messages
25,927
Reaction score
8,298
I'm sure there's a lot of truths there certainly. Speaking only for myself, I'll only wear fuller cut trousers predominantly out of comfort, but I'll also enjoy those types of silhouettes more. I definitely have a longer torso and shorter legs, but the proportions have never bothered me. I wouldn't consider myself all that skinny either.

As you mention, shirting is an issue with a lot of japanese brands as they do tend to run smaller shoulder and chest wise than a comparable US, maybe even EU brand. This ranges wildly from brand to brand however and perhaps others can chime in as I mostly buy from one brand that generally runs closer to TTS.
Believe this is your fit, right?

AEE07F4D-428C-48D0-BC9B-2C55B2B4555E.jpeg


I’m sure a lot of folks here like this, but I just don’t get it. No matter how nicely made or vintage accurate the details may be, the clothes just don’t flatter. You look like you probably have a decent/normal build, but the cut and short length of the jacket combined with the big pants make your shoulders look narrow, your mid-section fat, your pelvis oddly prominent, and your legs stumpy. Why?

You don’t need a CM-like approach with a tailored suit to remedy. But a bigger, longer top (shirt, sweater, hoodie, whatever) with broader shoulders combined with slim / skinny jeans or trousers would reverse all the negative effects.

Can we not feed the trolls?
I have 25K more posts than you and 10+ more years of participation. Maybe you shouldn’t assume all critique is disingenuous. Might find life more productive that way.
 

Mghart

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jul 28, 2014
Messages
1,501
Reaction score
1,609
Believe this is your fit, right?

View attachment 1807955

I’m sure a lot of folks here like this, but I just don’t get it. No matter how nicely made or vintage accurate the details may be, the clothes just don’t flatter. You look like you probably have a decent/normal build, but the cut and short length of the jacket combined with the big pants make your shoulders look narrow, your mid-section fat, your pelvis oddly prominent, and your legs stumpy. Why?

You don’t need a CM-like approach with a tailored suit to remedy. But a bigger, longer top (shirt, sweater, hoodie, whatever) with broader shoulders combined with slim / skinny jeans or trousers would reverse all the negative effects.
I can appreciate an honest critique. Truthfully, I enjoy this kind of stuff regardless of wether it’s flattering to others. I wear what I feel good in, and derive a degree of confidence in that. If anything, I just like vintage looking and fitting stuff more than what I can find in modern menswear. I’ve been down that road already and it’s not for me, nor is it nearly as comfortable.
 

ojaw

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2012
Messages
911
Reaction score
519
I have 25K more posts than you and 10+ more years of participation. Maybe you shouldn’t assume all critique is disingenuous. Might find life more productive that way.
You clearly have more online experience in men’s fashion than I and have long ago decided on what looks good on you, and apparently what looks good on everyone else as well. What decade would most reflect your proclivities? Timeless doesn’t count : ]
Also, having a fairly odd bod myself I find that Japanese cuts (particularly shirts) work alright for my narrow shoulders, skinny chest and wide hips.
Finally, you’ve been here decades and you’ve just now gotten around to critiquing this thread? What’s it worth to you, what do you gain from dissing stranger’s looks on the internet? Serious question.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: XWT

TheFoo

THE FOO
Dubiously Honored
Joined
Feb 11, 2007
Messages
25,927
Reaction score
8,298
You clearly have more online experience in men’s fashion than I and have long ago decided on what looks good on you, and apparently what looks good on everyone else as well. What decade would most reflect your proclivities? Timeless doesn’t count : ]
Also, having a fairly odd bod myself I find that Japanese cuts (particularly shirts) work alright for my narrow shoulders, skinny chest and wide hips.
Finally, you’ve been here decades and you’ve just now gotten around to critiquing this thread? What’s it worth to you, what do you gain from dissing stranger’s looks on the internet? Serious question.
I am not trying to “diss” anyone. I posed an earnest question and always hope to engage in thoughtful discussion (as rarely as that actually happens). The timing means nothing, other than it just happens to be now that my interest in the topic is piqued.
 

ojaw

Senior Member
Joined
Apr 15, 2012
Messages
911
Reaction score
519
I am not trying to “diss” anyone. I posed an earnest question and always hope to engage in thoughtful discussion (as rarely as that actually happens). The timing means nothing, other than it just happens to be now that my interest in the topic is piqued.
After your earnest question you outlined how awful vintage workwear styles make guys look.
 

XWT

Distinguished Member
Joined
Jan 5, 2018
Messages
1,105
Reaction score
1,555

hoodog

Distinguished Member
Supporting Member
Joined
Oct 28, 2012
Messages
4,056
Reaction score
5,354
What kind of fits look good is pretty subjective, as this pic indicates

IMG_2673 (2).JPG
 

Featured Sponsor

How Often Do You Buy New Clothing?

  • 1-5 times a year

  • 6-10 times a year

  • Once a month

  • 2-3 times a month

  • Weekly

  • Almost daily


Results are only viewable after voting.

Forum statistics

Threads
479,117
Messages
10,216,010
Members
214,830
Latest member
Abrambranch
Top