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The Hong Kong Tailors Thread

shirtingfantasy

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Is it possible to disclose the name of the tailor? I am very interested!
Ascot Chang, the shirtmaker of Hong Kong

Do note that the price list is for the popular “CMT” (cut, make, and trim) option advocated in this thread, in which the customer brings in his own fabric.
 

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Dang sorry to hear that you had such a terrible experience there. I kind of feel like most tailors who have no long-term vision won't "offer" to fix something that is their fault because, well it's cost to them and their goal is simply to pay rent and put food on their tables. It's short-term thinking for themselves.

Anyway I've had a bunch of these experiences where tailor shops (salesmen... don't even want to call them tailors but I've had tailors tell me to my face before that nothing is wrong with my suit or something can't be fixed... only for me to bring to an alterations specialist to get it fixed...) Honestly I'm not the one to stir shit up in people's shops (must be that Japanese environment I've been in too long) but man with what you went through I would have thrown a shit fit inside.
Yeah it sucked. When he told me that he wouldn't be able expedite my order, I did a raise a bit of a fuss, telling him that he got so many things wrong that the least he could do was to expedite my order - he replied "I just can't do it unfortunately". Ridiculous.
 

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Very impressed by the marketing efforts of the new breed of HK tailors (Anthology, Refinery, Gaudery, etc). They've successfully harnessed social media/partenrships with important blogs (eg Permanent Style), and created a vibe of "cool" (whiskey bars etc), and managed to charge very expensive prices for a very young operation

(Prologue is basically MTM and charges $9k as a starting price???? Anthology starts from $10K???? That's almost WW Chan prices). Which is insane considering that they're like 3 years old.
I commissioned a suit from the Anthology before and thought the cut/style is distinctive and the workmanship is pretty good. That said, I feel that the shop doesn’t give the same “bang for the buck” in comparison with WW Chan (who offers even better quality products, in my view).

The younger tailoring houses do well because they target at the right audience i.e. the Londoners who are used to paying high prices for their suits. I can see why the marketing efforts are well received following review by Mr Crompton.
 

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Can we see prices dropping due to the ongoing situation or is it business as usual (mainly talking about suits, but I'm interested in shirts as well) ?
 

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I saw Ascot Chang on their tour in San Francisco and their prices remained the same
 

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Can we see prices dropping due to the ongoing situation or is it business as usual (mainly talking about suits, but I'm interested in shirts as well) ?
I don't think they'll lower prices on their suits but I have walked by some tailor shops and have seen them put on promotions like a free shirt or some other freebie.
 

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Went to Allan Tom. Fabrics are very nice and prices are great (VBC Super 110s half canvassed for $3.4K).

The proprietor is nice and likes to chat about suits (he's knowledgable), but I wasn't satisfied with the service.

The experience is not great. Go if you have time to waste, but I don't like having my time wasted.

1. Showed up for a fitting on the date specified. Proprietor said "Oh, looks like the sifu forgot to send the suit back today. Let me check and call you back". Never called me back, I had to chase him up by phone. Had to get visibly annoyed before he even offered an apology. I was furious at this since he basically wasted my time (I got off work early just to make it to that fitting), and he broke his promise (he said he would call me back but he did not call me back). Also he fucked up and should've apologized in the very first instance.

2. Got the pants made with side adjusters with buttons instead of a pulley system even though I expressly told him to make it with a pulley system. No apology was offered ("Oh, I must've forgotten to write it down"). I could've told him to re-make the pants but I told him to nicely just forget about it since he'd have to eat the cost of remaking the pants. Again, I'm annoyed that he fucked up and didn't apologize.

3. Told him to do jetted pockets instead of flaps. Came back in the 2nd fitting with flap pockets. Told him to fix it. Came back in the 3rd fitting with flap pockets still. Remains to be seen whether he'll actually remember for the 4th fitting to do jetted pockets.

4. On 2nd fitting, jacket had some shoulder issues. Told him I need to get the tuxedo by a certain date, he said he'd get the shoulder issues fixed by the 3rd fitting so I could wear it. The shoulder issues were not fixed by the 3rd fitting (they did try and fix it but there was still a bit of a problem) and it's getting fixed by him again. This would be fine, I don't expect that complicated shoulder issues are fixed on the first try, except that...

4. Told him to prioritze my order and to try and get it to me in a few days (wanted to get it on the weekend so that I wouldn't have to get off work early to get the tuxedo), given that he fucked up so many times (pockets, side tabs, not getting the jacket for a fitting on the date he said it'd be ready). He would have 2 working days to get the sifu to fix it. He said not possible, sorry, too many other orders in the queue. Dude, come on, if you fuck up so many times, the least you could do is to prioritize my order.

Again, I have to reiterate that I don't hate the guy. He's a nice guy and he obviously likes suits. But it pisses me off that he gets things wrong and doesn't apologize for getting things wrong, and that he doesn't do stuff he says he'll do (he says he'll call you and doesn't call you). Also pisses me off that he doesn't know that if he fucks up, he should try and make it up to you (ie prioritzing your order).

I'm sticking with Lee Baron from now on.
I'm considering asking for my money back.

Has anyone else demanded their money back after a shit tailoring job? After repeated broken promises, extended timelines, and straight-up forgetfulness/incompetence?
 

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Went to Allan Tom. Fabrics are very nice and prices are great (VBC Super 110s half canvassed for $3.4K).


The experience is not great. Go if you have time to waste, but I don't like having my time wasted.

1. Showed up for a fitting on the date specified. Proprietor said "Oh, looks like the sifu forgot to send the suit back today. Let me check and call you back". Never called me back, I had to chase him up by phone. Had to get visibly annoyed before he even offered an apology. I was furious at this since he basically wasted my time (I got off work early just to make it to that fitting), and he broke his promise (he said he would call me back but he did not call me back). Also he fucked up and should've apologized in the very first instance.

2. Got the pants made with side adjusters with buttons instead of a pulley system even though I expressly told him to make it with a pulley system. No apology was offered ("Oh, I must've forgotten to write it down"). I could've told him to re-make the pants but I told him to nicely just forget about it since he'd have to eat the cost of remaking the pants. Again, I'm annoyed that he fucked up and didn't apologize.

3. Told him to do jetted pockets instead of flaps. Came back in the 2nd fitting with flap pockets. Told him to fix it. Came back in the 3rd fitting with flap pockets still. Remains to be seen whether he'll actually remember for the 4th fitting to do jetted pockets.

4. On 2nd fitting, jacket had some shoulder issues. Told him I need to get the tuxedo by a certain date, he said he'd get the shoulder issues fixed by the 3rd fitting so I could wear it. The shoulder issues were not fixed by the 3rd fitting (they did try and fix it but there was still a bit of a problem) and it's getting fixed by him again. This would be fine, I don't expect that complicated shoulder issues are fixed on the first try, except that...

4. Told him to prioritze my order and to try and get it to me in a few days (wanted to get it on the weekend so that I wouldn't have to get off work early to get the tuxedo), given that he fucked up so many times (pockets, side tabs, not getting the jacket for a fitting on the date he said it'd be ready). He would have 2 working days to get the sifu to fix it. He said not possible, sorry, too many other orders in the queue. Dude, come on, if you fuck up so many times, the least you could do is to prioritize my order.

Again, I have to reiterate that I don't hate the guy. He's a nice guy and he obviously likes suits. But it pisses me off that he gets things wrong and doesn't apologize for getting things wrong, and that he doesn't do stuff he says he'll do (he says he'll call you and doesn't call you). Also pisses me off that he doesn't know that if he fucks up, he should try and make it up to you (ie prioritzing your order).

I'm sticking with Lee Baron from now on.
(Prologue is basically MTM and charges $9k as a starting price???? Anthology starts from $10K???? That's almost WW Chan prices). Which is insane considering that they're like 3 years old.
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Update: Asked for money back from Allan Tom after he missed yet another deadline. Proprietor refused (despite sign saying “satisfaction guaranteed or your money back”), pushed me out of his store (literally assault as I was already walking out), and threatened me (“be careful, I have your phone number”).

An incredibly absurd experience. Posting here so that his shenanigans will be hopefully immortalized for anyone searching for Allan Tom on the internet.

ALLAN TOM IS SHIT, avoid avoid avoid. Actually they’re so hilariously bad you should go just to experience how bad it is.

Raised issue with credit card company. Hopefully refund incoming.
 
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dukenukem4ever

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Update: Asked for money back from Allan Tom after he missed yet another deadline. Proprietor refused (despite sign saying “satisfaction guaranteed or your money back”), pushed me out of his store (literally assault as I was already walking out), and threatened me (“be careful, I have your phone number”).

An incredibly absurd experience. Posting here so that his shenanigans will be hopefully immortalized for anyone searching for Allan Tom on the internet.

ALLAN TOM IS SHIT, avoid avoid avoid. Actually they’re so hilariously bad you should go just to experience how bad it is.

Raised issue with credit card company. Hopefully refund incoming.
You should definitely initiate a chargeback, the balls on that guy to put up such a sign to "guarantee or money back" LOL...

You could report his business here:

 

sadkfjaskfaj

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You should definitely initiate a chargeback, the balls on that guy to put up such a sign to "guarantee or money back" LOL...

You could report his business here:

Thanks for the link.

Yup, chargeback initiated on credit card. Honestly one of the most absurd experiences I've ever had. Proprietor threatening and assaulting you because you want your money back after he fucks up multiple times and misses multiple deadlines LMAO bruh.
 

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