The Hong Kong Tailors Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Silk, Apr 6, 2007.

  1. JTA

    JTA Senior member

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    +1 on hi to Peter and spot on a relaxed cut and soft canvas plus minimal shoulder padding.

    I've tried a fitted cut on my recent commission and the jacket is nearly on its way back to HK for alteration. Seems like I'm wearing two sizes smaller and too short.
    Learn my lesson and will stick to what he does best.
     
  2. RogerC

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    +1 Hi from me as well. I do like the way Peter can do a relaxed cut without making it look like a burlap sack.
     
  3. Angleton

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    Just got off the phone with Peter Lee / Lee Baron. I'm not sure who answered the phone, but he answered some of my questions.

    He was curt -- not in a rude way, but in an "I'm busy way and get these questions a gajillion times a day and need to get back to work" way, so I didn't get much time to go into things.

    First, in general, he seemed reluctant to talk about price. As a former salesperson, I know it's the most frustrating thing in the world to have a plethora (almost unlimited) set of options, each with their own price, only to have someone ask "how much does it cost". But, I asked for a starting price, and he said suits start from HKD3,600 -- but that seems very low ball to me.
    Second, he said that six days is indeed enough for the kind of order I have.
    Third, he opens at 10am, so I can go there on the day or arrival at that time.

    Anyway, I'll keep you all posted.
     
  4. Angleton

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    UPDATE: I'm not sure how useful this will be, but given the help you chaps have offered, I thought I'd share my experiences day by day.

    Went to Lee Baron today. Peter Lee is excellent.

    I was literally straight off the plane, so a bit unkempt. I dropped of my luggage at the hotel, and went directly to Kowloon to Lee Baron.

    First, it took me a little while to find his place, and in the street there were lots of hawkers offering watches, tailoring, etc. However, I have to say that as hawkers go, they were great. One told my girlfriend to mind her handbag, and another showed me the way to Lee Baron, even though he was pitching for his own place.

    For people going, it's in a kind of shopping centre which is indoor stalls; Lee Baron is on the ground floor.

    When I have more time, I can provide more precise directions.

    The quotes I got on the phone -- see above -- were real, but not for full canvass. Another client was in the store at the time, and was ordering a suit for his son, who insisted on full canvass -- so it can be done. I chose against it, because it was going to be tight for time (I'm only in Hong Kong for five nights) and it would also take the price over HK$5000. My situation, as I mentioned in earlier posts, is that I've lost lots of weight, and none of my current suits fit. So for me, a lot of suits made well by a trustworthy source is more impotant than having the zenith of quality -- which is why I didn't got to Chan.

    But the selection of cloths is superb, and Peter Lee is excellent at what he does -- I'm delighted with the service I received personally, and even sofar as one assistents even escorted my girlfriend to a place where she could get a manicure while I was pansying around with materials and cuts.)

    Full disclosure: I'm not as knowledgable as you guys here on suits, so perhaps I'm not quite as exacting with my standards. Second, as abovementioned, I havevery specific requirements. I therefore wanted some classic, simple suits that could act day-to-day beaters. I therefore chose a grey worsted, a navy worsted and a navy pinstripe. I asked for one button suits, four working sleve buttons, a working lapel button, two of the suits with notch lapels, one with peaked, the lapels high (which is the standard cut), and kept with the standard there in general.

    When I go back tomorrow, the price is so much lower than Moscow, that if the first fitting is good, I might pick out a grey flannel, too.

    Anyway, pre-first fitting, all extremely happy. I have to say that it's everythign I hoped for. Peter Lee is excellent, and it's easy to get carried away.

    I'll keep you updated after fittings and final purchase. When it's all over, I'll give prices, etc.

    Thanks again.
     
  5. vinveritas

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    Did you have shirts made as well? Kindly include this in your reportage. Many thanks.
     
  6. chobochobo

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    Went to Peter lee in the end for the button holes. Did a great job. When I finally get round to my bespoke, a navy linen db, I will go to him
     
  7. Angleton

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    OK, just got back from a first fitting of the suit. They were pretty meticulous when it came to measuring and making sure everything was just so. They're willing to accommodate when it comes to very small adjustments -- I asked for an eighth of an inch to be taken off the lapels of my jacket, for example. I was also quite fussy about where the trousers sat on my waist, how much break I wanted in the legs, and where the button would sit on the jacket (as abovementioned, I've gone for a one button jacket). What I like is that they were willing to listen specifically to what I wanted, but they also didn't let me do anything I wanted, if it was going to look bad: they're experienced and sharp enough to tell you when you're probably wrong to want something, and then explain why. I loved that, because while we all think we know what we want, and some people know lots about suits, these guys are doing it every day, and see sometimes what you can't. As customer I should be always right, but I also want advice and guidance, and I feel I got that.

    I go back for a second fitting on Tuesday.

    The silk linings for the suit are limited to plain (free of charge) but there's around 60 colours to choose from -- from conservative blues and greys to match the suit, to matching but brighter colours, to audacious shocking pinks, yellows and royal purples, so there ought to be something there to satisfy everyone.

    On shits, the first day I went in, I had a white shirt made for me to check for cut and size. I tried it on today, and it fitted well. Perhaps its a bit looser than I might of liked, but when I say a bit, I mean a tiny bit. It was great for the first time to have a shirt that fitted my shoulders perfectly, and didn't have horrible blousing or excess material gathering above the cuffs, under the arm between the elbow and shoulder, and excess material in the underarm area. Also, I asked Peter to make sure the collar points were long enough to be under the lapels, and despite my initial suspicion when I first put on the shirt that that they'd need lengthening, they were actually perfect when I tried it on with the first fitting suit jacket. In other words, he got it all spot on first time and it's a nicely made shirt. I decided to order two more white shirts, an ice green/mint, two blues (one with a contrast collars and cuffs) a pink (with contrast collars and cuffs), all in twill cotton, and a black satin-cotton affair. I can't remember the precise price but I think the lot came to less than HKD2,500, and for everyday work shirts, that's fantastic value in my book.

    I also ordered two overcoats, one which was a plain single breasted, three button, three quarter length brown (I would say half way between chocolate and camel), and the other of which was a black chesterfield. The brown coat that came for the first fitting was too big and boxy, but without me even mentioning it, Peter's assistant was marking it off to take inches off the shoulders, take it in at the waist for a more fitted silhouette and make other adjustments.

    I also took a Thomas Pink blue corduroy blazer in for adjustment, which was also taken care of.

    Still got nothing but good things to say. I think I might have been able to get more out of the experience if I didn't need so much at once -- but my head was kind of swimming with the choices for three suits, and this is the first time I've been through this process.

    Again, I hope this helps, and I'll keep you all informed as the process continues.
     
  8. JayJay

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    That's a fast turnaround between the first and second fitting. Sounds like you're enjoying the process. Thanks for posting this.
     
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  9. Spurious

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    Great post Angleton! Thanks for the info.
     
  10. Ebichuman

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    Great info, thanks very much! Good luck with your purchase and please let us know how the story ends - and post pictures!

    :happy:
     
  11. w.o.e.is.me.

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    Good stuff and glad you and Peter hit it off!
     
  13. Angleton

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    Jay Jay, I think I mentioned earlier, but it's not quite for full canvass. But, yes, they're very fast and efficient.

    As for the poster who said he was glad I was hitting it off with Peter, yes, I am. He reminds me so much of a Singaporean bar owner I was mates with in Moscow that I feel like I'm talking to the same person. Funny, that.
     
  14. vinveritas

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    Thanks for the informative update, Angleton. Looks like you bought the whole store! :)
     
  15. Angleton

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    Yes, but, I'm desperately regretting not getting a couple of sports jackets and trousers made. Like I said, I lost some weight and needed a bunch of new stuff, but still I didn't want to go wild. Big mistake. To be honest, I found the whole thing overwhelming, and lost track of certain things. But, we live and learn.

    Second fitting tomorrow. I'll keep you all in touch.
     

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