The Hong Kong Tailors Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Silk, Apr 6, 2007.

  1. BespokeKiwi

    BespokeKiwi Senior member

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    @AlexE the cross wind's vertical fabric fold problems aside, your new WW Chan 3-piece suit and its fit looks good from the front. Congratulations.

    Like Cat-Cat I would love to see a 180-360 view of your fit. No easily done I know, as I've just been busy doing some 180-360 degree fit pictures of some new garments, which I'm about to post shortly.
     
  2. Classic Car

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    Pay a vist to "Hola Classic" at Causeway Bay on HK island side.
     
  3. BespokeKiwi

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    ... This is a continuation of earlier posts.

    The focus on the post is on my new "Black English Blazer" (i.e. classic fit, English military-regular cut, 2-button with 4-hole polished gold-toned alloy buttons) from Ash Samtani tailors.

    Recall, this blazer is the "master" pattern jacket from my fittings in HK back in April 2014, which all my new 2-button jackets are supposed to be close "copies" of -- both fit and quality wise. That's the theory anyway. We shall she the results of the remedial efforts in due course.

    As noted in earlier posts, Ash Samtani tailors unfortunately failed to have all my orders completed in time for final fittings and my client acceptance while I was in HK. So, I'm now completely dependent on Ash Samtani to deliver all my new jackets (i.e. three more blazers and two suit jackets) to the same standard and fit as the master pattern jacket below.

    The reason I've posted pictures of the Black English Blazer again (albeit new 360 degree pictures this time) is that I will shortly be comparing my new jacket arrivals to this "master" jacket, to decide whether or not to accept them.

    More to follow...

    "Master" Pattern Jacket -- 180-360 Degree View:

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    - Apologies for the "black blob" picture quality issues above. Unfortunately, it was the best result the lighting (a cold winter's day down under), my camera and my own "selfie" photographer capabilities could produce on the day.
    - Kindly note that the absence of visible shirt sleeve cuff is a function of shirt sleeve shrinkage and not jacket sleeve length, as noted in an earlier post.
     
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  4. Classic Car

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    To my taste, the back of the blazer is a bit loose or too big.
     
  5. BespokeKiwi

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    @Classic Car thanks for the prompt fit feedback, which is greatly appreciated.
     
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    Classic Car Senior member

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    Have you lost weight recently? No doubt it is a nicely made blazer but my personal view, it is one size bigger for you.
     
  7. BespokeKiwi

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    @Classic Car yes I have lost a lot of weight in recent years, but not since the black blazer's (master pattern) fitting in HK back in April 2014.

    My older age is one reason for my preference for a "classic fit" over a contemporary slim fit. I'm 50 years old now and think the classic fit is more age appropriate for me.

    Regarding my weight loss, I'm 6' (183 cm) tall and 176 lbs (80 kg) now, I used to be clinically obese 4-5 years ago weighing in at 243 lbs (110 kg). However, I managed to loose the excess weight and kept it off through a better nutrition approach (I am a raw foodist) to weight loss -- not exercise. However, I'm about to start regular exercise (light resistance training) to tone up my body -- now on the unflattering "slim but not toned AKA skinny fat" side of the spectrum. Hence, another reason for my preference for classic fit over slimmer fit -- a little extra room to accommodate desired new toned body.

    Having said that, your observation of "one size too big" is duly noted, as I respect your opinion. I'm in the process of ordering a contemporary Neapolitan sports jacket and will get that in a slim fit and talk to my tailor about slimming down my English military-regular cut jackets. Again, thanks for taking the time to comment, much appreciated.
     
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  8. BespokeKiwi

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    TIP: If the following pre-requisite conditions apply to you, then I suggest that you invest in a digital camera and tripod to make the process of remotely assisting your tailor to fit and/or adjust any of your new garments.

    Pre-requisite Conditions:
    - For whatever reason, you failed to obtain completed garments with acceptable final fits during your last trip to HK.
    - During your next planned visit to HK, you don't have the time or financial budget to remain there until all your orders have been completed with a final fit that is acceptable to you. This process could take 1-2 weeks or more depending on: your tailor, the quantity of your new commissions and your individual bespoke requirements. Note: SF brothers and sisters can be much more demanding about their requirements and fits than the average punter. Hence, post completion adjustments can well be expected.
    - You're not living in a location near to your preferred HK tailor's overseas tour route.
    - You don't have an extra set of willing/qualified hands and eyes available to assist you with the remote fitting and adjustment process, i.e. taking good photos and critically observing the fits. Note: relying on a tailor shop's three way mirrors to observe your own fit and/or their staff exclusively to observe the fit can lead to "buyers remorse", when you eventually have the opportunity to take 360 degree photos and critically observe them to "see for yourself".

    The above tip has certainly made life easier for me recently. Alas, my experience has been that the process of achieving a "good fit" has gotten much more difficult than in years gone by; which I think may be a function of the fabric weights getting lighter, the declining knowledge/skills base of the HK custom tailoring industry (as the old school "sifu" slowly die off), and my own expectations rising with the passing years.

    Confession: the amount of time and effort required to achieve a good fit remotely may be considerable (depending on your tailor, quantity of garments commissioned and individual bespoke requirements once again) and is not recommended for the faint hearted, which should be factored in to your cost/benefit analysis when deciding how long to remain in HK during your sartorial sojourn. If you leave without completed garments that fit properly (that happened to me recently), then you are unwittingly signing up to be an unpaid remote member of tailor shop's workforce for however long it takes to complete your new garment(s) project.

    The irony is that I went to HK to avoid having to do remote fittings and adjustments, which I'd already unsuccessfully attempted to do (i.e. a blazer via mail order) for nine months prior to my HK visit. Now I'm facing the prospect of fitting and adjusting multiple garments remotely, owing to the tailor not been able to complete my orders during my 8 day visit to HK earlier in the year. In other words, the original problem I was hoping to avoid has now been "magnified" as multiple garments are now involved. Caveat emptor!
     
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    hey man, edit your post!
    you don't need to quote a post three times to comment just a few words! :brick:
     
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    My mouse was bad and I had it replaced.
     
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    But you still didn't edit the post! :facepalm:
     
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    Cannot understand.
     
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    Are u a fool?

    Go to edit your previous post ah!
    Delete those repeated content.

    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     
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    Does anybody know of tailors in HK who carry the Smiths steadfast book (preferably in central)?

    I know Chan has it, but they have taken it on tour at the moment.
     
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    Hey everybody, first-time poster here. Checked in with T Adair & Sons regarding Thomas Mason by the yard; they indeed do sell it by the yard, so I'll be getting a CMT done this summer. Will be paying them a visit over the weekend (they were closing as I visited, so didn't get a chance to see all of their cloths).

    Anybody have any recommendations regarding where to get a CMT done in Hong Kong? I think Ascot Chang does have CMT available for HKD750, but I'm unsure if they do CMT for a new customer. Also was considering Dream Bespoke, but was unsure of their quality (HKD300 for a CMT, I think).

    Probably will go with a basic Silverline white and light blue, considering I don't have any bespoke shirts at all.
     
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