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The Hong Kong Challenge: Gordon Yao versus Peter Lee

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by fritz1970, May 6, 2013.

  1. fritz1970

    fritz1970 Member

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    Gordon Yao versus Peter Lee

    Who is better and by what margin?
     
  2. dragon8

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    Never used Peter Lee but have used Yao many times. I've had friends that have used PL and GY and GY hands down IMHO and theirs as well.
     
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    Wow perfect thread since I am about to fly off to Hong Kong for a few days tomorrow.

    What kind of price range for shirts should I expect for GY or PL?
     
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    GY used to refer shirts to Ascot Chang when I first used him but I think he does his own shirts now. GY used to make all of AC's suits but now AC uses someone else.
     
  5. add911_11

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    If you are going to use Peter Lee for shirts, make sure you are alert for the fittings.
     
  6. RogerC

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    What are GY's CMT prices these days?
     
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    It is not fixed, last time I ask in 3 months ago, he quoted 3 piece CMT is HKD11000.

    You might be able to get a lower price.
     
  8. GBR

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    Gordon Yao is far superior to Lee. I have been using Gordon for over twelve years now and can commend his suits and the service you will get.

    I did look at Peter Lee's product but was far from impressed by quality or fit.
     
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    Sorry can you elaborate on what you mean by "Alert"? Do you mean book an appointment first?

    I looked on other threads on SF, seems like AC shirts are outside my price range.
     
  10. lightbulb1986

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    I'd imagine there is also a superior premium for GY work? FWIW I'm quite satisfied with the VBC suits + extra pants I received from Peter Lee (~1100US). I noticed the pick stitching on one suit was far less subtle than the other two, perhaps different tailors. I'm not a fit or style connoisseur, nor am I ready to pay the price to become one, but just having fully canvassed suits fit to my specifications makes me better dressed than 9/10 similarly situated to me. I can't comment on GY, but I can say that Peter Lee is, to me, worth the premium one would pay over a RTW+tailoring or MTM suit of similar construction.
     
  11. add911_11

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    I mean you better be sharp during fittings for their garments. They have a tendency to make shirts too long, or uneven sleeves.
    I will be good if you can bring a well fitted coat to try on with the shirt.
     
  12. Stiva

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    This is a bit like comparing apples and oranges. GY, along with WW Chan and A Man, is in the upper echelon of HK tailors.

    I'm surprised that Lee Baron charged $1100 for a suit - but that must be attributable to the use of VBC. But a VBC suit from GY, etc will cost in the order of $1400-$1500, so LB is still cheaper even on that measure.

    I had two suits made by LB in January. The first was a blazer suit in an airforce blue, linen/cotton blend in a no name Spanish fabric. Couldn't be happier with it. The second was a tan in 8 oz tropical wool. Not as happy because it is a little too relaxed in fit (partly my fault for not being more rigorous during the basted fitting) but also, if I'm being totally honest, because the fabric doesn't suit my size (very large) and colouring (paler skin with a reddish tinge) as well as the darker suit. Both cost in the order of $650 (fully canvassed) which I consider to be excellent value. OTR and MTM doesn't compare. Other members of this forum, and notably Slewfoot, have also had very good results with LB.

    The two Chans I had made at the same time are in a different class, but also in better fabric - Lesser and VBC respectively.

    My conclusion is that LB is the right choice for more informal suits made from less durable fabrics (linen, light tropicals, seersucker, whatever) at a reasonable price, and GY, WWC, etc for CBD suits made from higher end, more durable fabrics.
     
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    Well to be fair each suit came with two pants, so knock about US 200 off that ticket for a two piece suit. I also had a linen two piece suit made from their house fabric that ran me about US 700. Stiva, do you know what GY charges for CMT?
     
  14. Stiva

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    Sorry, I don't. Add911 says HKD 11,000 for a three piece which is about USD 1400. Add911 is up to date on the HK stuff. Even making adjustments to a two piece, sounds a bit expensive - but I suspect they might wish to discourage CMT. Less margin for error when the customer brings their own.
     
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    Well, I can't say anything about GY quality, never ordered something there, but demand for HK tailoring in general has risen tremendously over the past few years, although this has been mainly concentrated on a few well-known names, WW Chan to name just one. Hence, they strongly increased prices, while there are still significant numbers of HK tailors who haven't broken through on sites such as these and hence, will probably have not increased prices to the same extent.
     
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    That's exactly why, Gordon shops has most of the English fabrics that people seeks. Plus I believe you don't save much with CMT nowadays.

    Disclaimer: I do not use GY, so my pricing is not the most accurate. I believe long time customer will have better price, if they have joined the club early.

    For oversea customers, it is best to use the famous names because they are experienced to due with the special needs. Also they can provide fittings during their oversea trips.
     
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    I have used PL for a few things - no suits - and no personal experience with GY, but this is what I thought as well (and I think my experience with PL confirms that).
     
  18. JTA

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    No experience with GY and have used PL few times with good results.

    With PL I can testify that it is highly recommended to be clear with the details you want otherwise the end result may deviate from what you're thinking of. IMHO PL quality is mid-tier whilst GY is up there with WW Chan and Baromon. Few years back, before he's swarmed due to SF popularity, his suits were good value (price/quality) nevertheless not so much recently (have been thinking to switch to either TCNY or Baromon) except for his shirts.

    Just my two cents, PL shirts are exceptional (value).
     

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