PekingRoadHK
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People have been to the wrong places that don't suit them. What happened?
People have been to the wrong places for the products that don't suit them. What are the reasons behind? They have one thing in common, they got wrong expectation! Most HK tailor shops and baotou produce HK cut only, only very few produce either British cut or Italian cut. When people go to tailor shops or baotou that don't produce what they want, they will never get the products that best suit them. When people do good research before we go to the right places, we got good products!
Tailor shop owners go Baotou for help, they hire baotou to take orders for tailor shops. There are baotou who were working as in-house tailors for famous bespoke tailor shops. Baotou are the same people behind tailor shops. So, why not consumers go baotou? There are good and bad, just like tailor shops, there are too many. We go to the right baotou for the right products, we can pick the right fabrics and by-pass all middlemen for the same good products, this is smart spending.
Very simple logic:
- If good baotou don't produce good products, how come good baotou are loaded of orders?
- Consumers see bad products from famous tailor shops, why not consumers choose to go baotou?
- Why pay more to tailor shops when we can get the same products from baotou?
- What if we don't see the value from tailor shops, why not go for baotou?
- What if we see better products from baotou than tailor shops?
- If baotou service is nonsense, how can baotou survive for over 5 decades?
- If baotou service is not widely accepted, how come baotou is a part of globalization?
- Baotou is a part of global supply chain, this is the reality. Is the world wrong?
- Fashion designers from global brand names have been ordering baotou to make sample garments before they pass on the mass production work to factories. If baotou don't produce good products, why famous brand names order baotou to make samples?
- Consumers see good products from baotou, why not?
- Do consumers have free choice?
- People from around the world have said thank you to me, that opens them to the new world of baotou, why? Because people see we have been to the right place for the right products.
There are 2 markets:
1) Tailor shop market
2) Baotou market
1) People suit to go tailor shops are people who don't do research and they go one place for all for services. They don't know what they want, they need tailor shops to tell them what they want. They don't have much time and they want services, they pay more for the same products. They go Baotou, they don't feel right, they have been to the wrong places for the products that don't suit them. That's what happened. They need services, they should not go baotou.
2) People suit to go baotou are people who know what they want. We do good research, we don't need people to tell what we need. We go baotou for the right products, we can get even better services from tailor shops. This is smart spending. We don't like tailor shops, we don't go tailor shops. We like baotou, we go baotou.
We see good products from baotou when we go to the right places.
This one is made by a sifu that produces British cut, original from sifu IG:
This one made by a sifu that produces Italian cut, original from sifu IG:
When one says bad experiences from baotou, I also see bad experiences from tailor shops and bespoke. The fact is there are good and bad experiences from both baotou and tailor shops. There is no one single baotou or tailor shop that can serve all kinds of consumers. We are consumers, we make our choice, we don't need people to tell what we want. We know what we want and where to go. There are too many, we pick whatever we prefer.
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Someone said adding a few Italian options does not make Italian cut, e.g. spalla camicia or milanese buttonhole. I agreed.
Same idea, adding a few British options does not make British cut, e.g. ticket pocket.
I also got suits of British cut with milanese buttonhole and suits of Italian cut with ticket pocket.
These are examples when people going to places with wrong expectation:
1) been to a sifu of British cut, expecting Italian cut by adding spalla camicia or milanese buttonhole. At the end, it's not Italian cut. And the opposite way, been to a sifu of Italian cut, expecting British cut by adding ticket pocket. At the end, it's not British cut.
2) been to sifu of HK cut, expecting British cut or Italian cut. At the end, it's HK cut.
What is HK cut? A sifu charging less told me he does not make British cut or Italian cut, he makes suits that are well fine fitted, nothing too fancy, he calls that HK cut. He said we can order spalla camicia, milanese buttonhole, ticket pocket. At the end, it is HK cut. Many baotou and tailor shops in HK are making suits that fit well, they don't make British cut or Italian cut, this is the majority. If this is not called HK cut, we can call that ordinary cutting.
This is wrong expectation from the majority. When we see a few beautiful options or certain style, we want to make the same. Keep in mind, after all the options we can add, cutting and fitting are 2 different issues. We can get fine fitting, but the cutting might not as we expect. Custom made garments, suits, overcoats, leather jackets, we can get fine fitting. The cutting is another issue. If we insist British cut or Italian cut, we need to go to the right sifu for British cut or Italian cut. Other than that, ordinary suits of fine fitting is good enough for the majority.
e.g. I planned to make a Tom Ford leather jacket, I can order everything that looks like that. At the end, it's a well fine fitted jacket, it's a nice leather jacket. It's not Tom Ford leather jacket.
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don't waste your time for baotou for some people:
I have explained this issue long time ago. Unlike tailor shop, baotou has no customer service or sales people guiding. Consumers who need services or guiding should not go baotou, this is no joke. If you are a tourist or staying in HK for short term, baotou is not right for you. It takes time to search this and that, from sourcing fabrics to searching sifu. You don't know what you need, you don't know alot more for the right things for you. The answer is "NO". Baotou is not right for you.
Baotou is for consumers who can do self-serve only. There is no CS, no guiding, no one tells you what you really need. You are on your own, you need to know what you need. It takes time to search for your fabrics and sifu. I tell an alternative to tailor shops, I share whatever I want, I don't report to anyone. I write alot here and in my blog(s) to open a new world to many people. People read and they go on for their search, they become baotou consumers. I made it very clear, you don't need to follow my choice. People don't like to read and say this is too many words, you don't have patience to do research. The answer is "NO". Baotou is not right for you. Don't waste your time. Bye bye, you don't want to hear baotou issue.
People have been to the wrong places for the products that don't suit them. What are the reasons behind? They have one thing in common, they got wrong expectation! Most HK tailor shops and baotou produce HK cut only, only very few produce either British cut or Italian cut. When people go to tailor shops or baotou that don't produce what they want, they will never get the products that best suit them. When people do good research before we go to the right places, we got good products!
Tailor shop owners go Baotou for help, they hire baotou to take orders for tailor shops. There are baotou who were working as in-house tailors for famous bespoke tailor shops. Baotou are the same people behind tailor shops. So, why not consumers go baotou? There are good and bad, just like tailor shops, there are too many. We go to the right baotou for the right products, we can pick the right fabrics and by-pass all middlemen for the same good products, this is smart spending.
Very simple logic:
- If good baotou don't produce good products, how come good baotou are loaded of orders?
- Consumers see bad products from famous tailor shops, why not consumers choose to go baotou?
- Why pay more to tailor shops when we can get the same products from baotou?
- What if we don't see the value from tailor shops, why not go for baotou?
- What if we see better products from baotou than tailor shops?
- If baotou service is nonsense, how can baotou survive for over 5 decades?
- If baotou service is not widely accepted, how come baotou is a part of globalization?
- Baotou is a part of global supply chain, this is the reality. Is the world wrong?
- Fashion designers from global brand names have been ordering baotou to make sample garments before they pass on the mass production work to factories. If baotou don't produce good products, why famous brand names order baotou to make samples?
- Consumers see good products from baotou, why not?
- Do consumers have free choice?
- People from around the world have said thank you to me, that opens them to the new world of baotou, why? Because people see we have been to the right place for the right products.
There are 2 markets:
1) Tailor shop market
2) Baotou market
1) People suit to go tailor shops are people who don't do research and they go one place for all for services. They don't know what they want, they need tailor shops to tell them what they want. They don't have much time and they want services, they pay more for the same products. They go Baotou, they don't feel right, they have been to the wrong places for the products that don't suit them. That's what happened. They need services, they should not go baotou.
2) People suit to go baotou are people who know what they want. We do good research, we don't need people to tell what we need. We go baotou for the right products, we can get even better services from tailor shops. This is smart spending. We don't like tailor shops, we don't go tailor shops. We like baotou, we go baotou.
We see good products from baotou when we go to the right places.
This one is made by a sifu that produces British cut, original from sifu IG:
This one made by a sifu that produces Italian cut, original from sifu IG:
When one says bad experiences from baotou, I also see bad experiences from tailor shops and bespoke. The fact is there are good and bad experiences from both baotou and tailor shops. There is no one single baotou or tailor shop that can serve all kinds of consumers. We are consumers, we make our choice, we don't need people to tell what we want. We know what we want and where to go. There are too many, we pick whatever we prefer.
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Someone said adding a few Italian options does not make Italian cut, e.g. spalla camicia or milanese buttonhole. I agreed.
Same idea, adding a few British options does not make British cut, e.g. ticket pocket.
I also got suits of British cut with milanese buttonhole and suits of Italian cut with ticket pocket.
These are examples when people going to places with wrong expectation:
1) been to a sifu of British cut, expecting Italian cut by adding spalla camicia or milanese buttonhole. At the end, it's not Italian cut. And the opposite way, been to a sifu of Italian cut, expecting British cut by adding ticket pocket. At the end, it's not British cut.
2) been to sifu of HK cut, expecting British cut or Italian cut. At the end, it's HK cut.
What is HK cut? A sifu charging less told me he does not make British cut or Italian cut, he makes suits that are well fine fitted, nothing too fancy, he calls that HK cut. He said we can order spalla camicia, milanese buttonhole, ticket pocket. At the end, it is HK cut. Many baotou and tailor shops in HK are making suits that fit well, they don't make British cut or Italian cut, this is the majority. If this is not called HK cut, we can call that ordinary cutting.
This is wrong expectation from the majority. When we see a few beautiful options or certain style, we want to make the same. Keep in mind, after all the options we can add, cutting and fitting are 2 different issues. We can get fine fitting, but the cutting might not as we expect. Custom made garments, suits, overcoats, leather jackets, we can get fine fitting. The cutting is another issue. If we insist British cut or Italian cut, we need to go to the right sifu for British cut or Italian cut. Other than that, ordinary suits of fine fitting is good enough for the majority.
e.g. I planned to make a Tom Ford leather jacket, I can order everything that looks like that. At the end, it's a well fine fitted jacket, it's a nice leather jacket. It's not Tom Ford leather jacket.
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don't waste your time for baotou for some people:
I have explained this issue long time ago. Unlike tailor shop, baotou has no customer service or sales people guiding. Consumers who need services or guiding should not go baotou, this is no joke. If you are a tourist or staying in HK for short term, baotou is not right for you. It takes time to search this and that, from sourcing fabrics to searching sifu. You don't know what you need, you don't know alot more for the right things for you. The answer is "NO". Baotou is not right for you.
Baotou is for consumers who can do self-serve only. There is no CS, no guiding, no one tells you what you really need. You are on your own, you need to know what you need. It takes time to search for your fabrics and sifu. I tell an alternative to tailor shops, I share whatever I want, I don't report to anyone. I write alot here and in my blog(s) to open a new world to many people. People read and they go on for their search, they become baotou consumers. I made it very clear, you don't need to follow my choice. People don't like to read and say this is too many words, you don't have patience to do research. The answer is "NO". Baotou is not right for you. Don't waste your time. Bye bye, you don't want to hear baotou issue.
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