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The Home Ownership Thread

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Douglas, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    My father has always bartered for paint jobs. His house is immaculately painted and so is the painter's car. (My dad owns a car repair and body shop).

    Me on the other hand, I buy the paint and the girlfriend paints. I am happy with white walls, she bitches so I told her to do it herself. I think it is a good compromise.
     
  2. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    I think a good result down the road a ways has alot to do with good prep work, that can be something worth paying for if you are inexperienced and have little interest in becoming experienced, or if your work generally turns out like a Gerhard Richter painting (and it wasn't intentional).
     
  3. Piobaire

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    I detest painting; I spent a few summers drywalling and painting. For some reason I don't mind hanging gyp rock, actually enjoy mudding and sanding, but detest painting.
     
  4. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I agree. Times where I have painted were some of the worst in my life. It makes sense why good jobs are always expensive. It is harder than you think.
     
  5. idfnl

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    ^^ I wont do it just because I cant stand the monotony of it.

    Painters are notorious alcoholics, its really grunt work. I've done some shit jobs like spending 2 summers in HS doing cement. I rather like doing electrical work, and similar jobs but painting? No way. Its worth the money to avoid.

    Whoever mentioned prep is spot on. A good drywall guy can contribute as much to a good paint job as the painter.
     
  6. otc

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    It really depends what you are looking for.

    If you are the OP who was asking about an online estimator tool, then a lefty-style paint job is probably not right.

    I can do a decent job painting myself. I probably put in more prep-work than the cut-rate painters but I also don't paint very often so my brush work isn't always great right away (and I try to hand paint my edges...screw tape-lines). Using good paints and making sure to not try and stretch them too far is key.

    For the most part, what I am doing is a huge improvement over the shit that's on the wall in a rental. If I were in lefty's place, I probably wouldn't be satisfied.
     
  7. Ataturk

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    The worst part about painting, to me, is cleaning the brushes and rollers. Then you have to clean the sink, clean the faucet, etc. If you're doing a little at a time it gets old really fast.

    I kind of regret putting a $200+ Kohler faucet in the utility room.
     
  8. Piobaire

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    HB, are you a notorious alcoholic?
     
  9. CodyNC

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    Being a sales rep for one of the big paint companies, I can say that it depends on the quality of work. A general rule is 1/3 for materials and 2/3 for labor. This is a standard number for pretty much any "quality" painter. Of course all situations are different but this is a good estimator for how painting and coating contractors price work. Just my .02
     
  10. otc

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    If you are just doing it a little bit at a time, you can probably also just wrap them tightly in cling wrap and place in fridge. Pull them out tomorrow and let them warm up to room temp before using.
     
  11. idfnl

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    I've done this and it works (no fridge though).
     
  12. suited

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    Speaking of paint, get a few estimates. It's free. Be sure to inquire about the specifics - paint brand and line, number of coats, etc. Make sure you're comparing apples to apples. We recently had most of our home painted and the quotes varied by nearly $1,000 from cheapest to most expensive, using benjamin moore regal paint. We got a little break on the price because the house was completely empty with concrete floors in the areas that needed painting (minus one room) - so not much prep work there in terms of covering furniture and flooring, allowing them to just work faster in general.
     
  13. lefty

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    I have a stick up my ass when it comes to painting. I was trained by a master painter over a couple of summers and have held every painter since to a pretty high standard. And I am a very good painter.

    Side note: you know who else was a good painter? Hitler.


    Other than my current guy, I've never seen someone come in with sanders to flatten between coats. I also ask him to paint a lot of dark colours which can be a pain in the ass. My present foyer is dark seal (sort of a grey/brown) with a near black baseboard for example. The previous owner put a corian surround on the fireplace, so I asked my guy to paint it gloss black until I can figure out what I want to do with it. He sealed the "stone" with automotive paint then sprayed the gloss on to ensure no roller/brush marks. Most guys would have just put on a primer and colour with a roller.

    Anyway, the movers fucked some walls up so I need to have him back to redo a few things. That's also included in his overall cost.

    lefty
     
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  14. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Our painters sand and screen between coats. IIRC, that was part of a specified level five finish.
     
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  15. lefty

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    Level Five ... nice.

    lefty
     
  16. Ataturk

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    If you're doing gloss I guess that might be worth it. It's overkill for flat paint though, with the caveat that they ought to sand down drips and the like.
     
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  17. Ataturk

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    So has anybody else bit their lip and bought some LED bulbs?

    I got a dozen LED flood lights to replace some of the incandescents in my house. I'd tried CFLs, but they take forever to warm up to full brightness and don't dim well (or at all). I also got a case of philips "patented ugly" lobed bulbs to replace some CFLs in places I wanted a bulb that comes on quick.

    The spotlights I got are impressive. Made by "Feit" and claim to be replacements for 100w bulbs despite only making 1065 lumens (100W is 1400-1600, I think). LEDs make better use the light, though, since they're directional, and believe it or not, the bulbs really are as bright as claimed. Not bad for 17w, and they dim too. Best of all they have opaque diffusers and standard bodies--in the can they are indistinguishable from real bulbs. The only downside is the cost (~$25 per bulb) and the split-second delay before they light up. The philips bulbs are nice, too, and come on a little faster. Of course they're ugly beyond description and can't be put somewhere you can see them.

    I saw Lowes is advertising a 1400 lumen outdoor LED bulb, which I'm sure I could find a use for.
     
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  18. SkinnyGoomba

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    I've been considering it, but LEDs are so goddamn ugly. And last time I checked they don't make a 3-way bulb. I had to shell out big bucks for a 3-way CFL, and it works well enough, but it's 10 times as expensive as a regular incandescent.
     
  20. Ataturk

    Ataturk Senior member

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    Like I said, these BR40-factor can lights are completely indistinguishable appearance wise from regular bulbs. This is it right here: http://www.amazon.com/Feit-Electric-Conserv-Energy-Dimmable-BR40/dp/B009B0TETS

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    Oh, and the impetus for getting the LEDs wasn't that I care so much about mother earth and all that, it's that I'm rearranging some of the can lights and wanted to make sure I could actually light my house in the future since brighter bulbs were banned by the "Dim Rooms Act"
     
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