The Home Ownership Thread

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by Douglas, Jan 31, 2012.

  1. otc

    otc Senior member

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    What you guys are saying makes a lot of sense. I grew up in a non-HOA area and never had the problems that HOA's supposedly prevent (besides minor annoyances) but I can see how owning a home in an area that has those problems would drive you towards a HOA. Obviously, a condo HOA is necessary since the building itself is not the responsibility of individual owners although it creates a huge problem with the alignment of incentives in buildings that are heavily rented (which is a big deal around here right now since a lot of people opted to rent their units and wait for prices to recover) since the actual residents have very little sway over the condo board.

    The HOA horror stories still scare me though. Obviously there are some bad-apple HOAs, but you are giving up a lot of legal rights to own something governed by one (since everything's a civil matter and you can be on the hook for the HOA's legal fees if a case doesn't go in your favor).
    Also, in some areas it can be pretty hard to avoid HOAs. If the municipality put in a lot of requirements on developers, and the town is one that really built up in the last 50-60 years, there may be very few properties not covered by a HOA.
     
  2. upthewazzu

    upthewazzu Senior member

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    I have a dog, that's pretty much it. I grew up in nice suburban neighborhoods and we never had a fence. So aside from wanting to keep my dog out of other people's yards, I really have no preference either way. As it stands, the folks on either side of me built their own fences as well, but the folks behind me did not. I can only assume someone behind me wanted to look at the pretty side of the fence and decided to start hassling the board about a stupid "friendly-neighbor" rule. Other than that I can't figure out why anyone would care.
     
  3. Douglas

    Douglas Stupid ass member

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    True Story: My HOA's deed agreement once specifically excluded blacks. :slayer:
     
  4. idfnl

    idfnl Senior member

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    ^^ wow

    One time a HOA would have been handy is when I was like 12 and an investor bought a house next door, and like 4 families from Salvador moved in, they decided to grow 600 corn plants in the front yard. Corn stalks are taller than they look on TV.
     
  5. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    I think my co-op still has that in the by-laws.
     
  6. upthewazzu

    upthewazzu Senior member

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    Just talked with the president of the board and she basically said don't worry about it. As long as the folks behind me build a fence (which she is pretty sure they plan to) then I won't have to do anything. At most, I'd have to slap up some boards on the back side to hide the supports.
     
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    HRoi Senior member

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    Show me the 5 biggest sniveling busybodies in your building/development and I'll show you your HOA board of directors
     
  8. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    Was not uncommon on deed restrictions. Dearborn, Michigan had that deed restriction on the entire city. So what city was just outside of Dearbonr? Inkster. I kid you not.
     
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    + fucking 1. Wouldnt join one even if they paid me.
     
  10. NorCal

    NorCal Senior member

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    Wait, you're the guy who built a fence and put the shitty side towards the neighbor?
    Poor form me boy, poor form.
     
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    Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I have always preferred the shitty side. I'd rather be the guy that can easily climb the fence to see what's on the other side, than be the guy who looks at the smooth panels but can't get over it. It just seems to me that if you put the supports on the outside, you're inviting people to come take a look at your shit.
     
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    Ataturk Senior member

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    Was it really the HOA? Those covenants date to the pre-1950s, (as far as I know) before most HOAs arose.
     
  13. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    Why not just build a fence that does not have an ugly side?
     
  14. upthewazzu

    upthewazzu Senior member

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    It doesn't really bother me either way but the wifey wanted the smooth side so that's how I built it. I do like the way it looks, and I'm not concerned about anyone climbing over it to take a peek. And if they do then more power to them, they'll appreciate the effort I put into landscaping my backyard!
     
  15. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    mortise and tenons anyone?? No shitty side.
     

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