The Hobbit (film series)

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  1. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    I can't believe I have lived so long without finding this.
     


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    Joffrey, the Hobbit is basically a children's book, a pure adventure story told in picaresque style (like Huck Finn) and without LOTR's ponderousness. The "back story" element of Middle Earth history is there but touched on much more lightly and infrequently. Basically, every chapter is a mini-adventure in and of itself, all leading to the big adventure. There is a great deal of humor and the dialogue is not stilted. It's just a completely different experience than LOTR and should make for a very fun movie, but lighter.
     
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    I fully expect that they will do a fine job with Smaug...you need only look at how the Balrog turned out.

    This should be a pretty good experience.
     


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    Also it has great poetry.
     


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    I haven't read it since junior high but one of my favourite parts in the book is when GOllum and Bilbo exchange silly riddles. Hopefully, the film does this piece justice.
     


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    I look forward to seeing how they touch upon the Necromancer, who inhabits Mirkwood at the south-end.
     


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    He is only referenced in the book, never seen. But it would be Jacksonesque to expand that into a real role.
     
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    Yeah, I'm just thinking that it would be quite pertinent to the flow between The Hobbit and LOTR to create a greater narrative about him.

    There's so much potential here. Smaug is a very intelligent being and it would make for great cinema and satisfaction to us geeks out there to bring in some of the ancient history of dragons.
     


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    I loved that part (it was a wonderful way for Tolkein to return to the writing style and structure of The Hobbit, thus bringing us full circle), but its inclusion would have simply lengthened the movie.


    I can't see how they could take it out. It's one of the most beloved parts of the book, from what I gather.
     


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    GQ is talking about the EE. Ya know, the one that was already 4 hours (I think). An extra 10 minutes probably wouldn't have hurt.

    Yes, but to do it proper justice is a whole different story. With Serkis reprising Gollum I'm definitely looking forward to any such interaction, though. I don't know enough about Freeman to judge whether or not he'll be a good Bilbo.
     


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    To put that scene on the screen would have required far more than ten minutes. The hobbits come back to discover the shire has been taken over, they run into trouble with other hobbits, they convince a number of inhabitants of Hobbitton to follow them, then the rebel, after which they discover who was behind it (no spoiler!). I don't have my copy of LOTR on hand, but as I recall it was something like 40 pages.
     


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    http://screenrant.com/the-hobbit-comic-con-2012-johnh-185710/

    Reviews seem to be positive, at least for 24fps 2D.

    What was shown at comic-con:
     


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    My god. That last sentence. :nodding:
     


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    This is in response to an old discussion but ... The Hobbit is a short book. To squeeze not one but TWO full length feature movies out of it, Jackson will not only be cutting absolutely nothing, he will be adding stuff. E.g., there is no scene with Galadriel in The Hobbit. I wonder what other stuff Jackson put in.

    I will bet that Gandalf's role is expanded significantly. Gandalf is absent for much of the book. He's there at the very beginning, then disappears, then saves them from the trolls and takes them as far as Beorn's, and then does not reapper again until after Smaug is dead, which is very near the end.
     
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    I know originally Peter Jackson wanted to bridge between the two novels (Hobbit / LOTR). I imagine this will still happen throughout the film, for example with Gandalf meeting Saruman. Saruman is nonexistent in the Hobbit, and yet from Christopher Lee's wikipedia page: "On 11 January 2011, Lee announced on his website that he would be reprising the role of Saruman for the prequel film The Hobbit." What stories PJ will incorporate from the Silmarillion I don't know, but I imagine he will set both a rich background for Smaug as well as make evident the events from The Hobbit to LOTR.
     


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