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The high end Chinese Shoe Thread

Viatu

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I discovered BW on IG by mistake. At first I thought they were a scam account because they had several shoes that look eerily familiar and it was actually boot_owl who pointed out that it was an official account. If you check BW instagram you can see the same shoe being delivered to oct tenth and Yeossal.

I've ordered from them. Helen is incredible to work with, language barrier is rough. Helen replied at ungodly hours! when compared to both OT and Y... took over 48-72 hours and sometimes never replied back
Did Helen give you anything so you could specify last, size, shoe style, etc? Or, did you simply describe or give her a picture of what you wanted?
 

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My memory could be faulty, but I remember seeing my pair of Waymans in a from a Xibao/TGC store facebook photo that someone posted here or on some shoe blog awhile ago...

that being said...the OT and Y pairs I own, do have an almost identical sweet scent that I've noticed when unboxing. The Waymans did not.
 

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Did Helen give you anything so you could specify last, size, shoe style, etc? Or, did you simply describe or give her a picture of what you wanted?
yea how did you specify last?
Nothing all done via email and list out the items there. Being objective, I guess from that perspective the ordering process is rather rudimentary ( but then again have dealt with other shoemakers in the same manner).
The two times I ordered I found photos of lasts/leathers I liked and she replied with about 10 photos different of shoes per last. She also sent photos of swatches. Asked about instep, etc. Sent over tracings to confirm my size. They will let you customize anything really, sole type, style, color, toe taps etc. Once all the details are finalized, she will send an invoice in excel and ask for payment sent over Xoom (about $5 per transaction and she did say paypal was possible but very complicated). Prices are around the same as OT or Y.
 

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do they have something like this is the list of last, they fit foot xyz, these are the relative sizing to popular English brand etc., or it's all just kind "very fluid" (hum I like this picture, oh would it fit, oh does it run narrow etc.)
 

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do they have something like this is the list of last, they fit foot xyz, these are the relative sizing to popular English brand etc., or it's all just kind "very fluid" (hum I like this picture, oh would it fit, oh does it run narrow etc.)
Very fluid and very impromptu it seems like. I asked how does this fit I am 10 uk / 11d. and she replied "Regular fit with regular instep". As instep was my concerns I asked for examples of instep and she did reply we have lasts with high instep and can modify lasts to fit.
 

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Nothing all done via email and list out the items there. Being objective, I guess from that perspective the ordering process is rather rudimentary ( but then again have dealt with other shoemakers in the same manner).
The two times I ordered I found photos of lasts/leathers I liked and she replied with about 10 photos different of shoes per last. She also sent photos of swatches. Asked about instep, etc. Sent over tracings to confirm my size. They will let you customize anything really, sole type, style, color, toe taps etc. Once all the details are finalized, she will send an invoice in excel and ask for payment sent over Xoom (about $5 per transaction and she did say paypal was possible but very complicated). Prices are around the same as OT or Y.
If that's the case I'll stick with Yeossal. I'll pay a little more for good customer service, ease of ordering, and communication.
 

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If that's the case I'll stick with Yeossal. I'll pay a little more for good customer service, ease of ordering, and communication.
yup completely agree. The only reason I decided to try them out was because the lack of communication from my emails with the other vendors.
 

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My memory could be faulty, but I remember seeing my pair of Waymans in a from a Xibao/TGC store facebook photo that someone posted here or on some shoe blog awhile ago...
Both our memories are faulty then because I also recall seeing that photo as well.

Like @Betta experienced, I'd commission with whomever responds and takes my inquiry seriously. Doubt there's much of a difference amongst the various brands within that price range anyways.
 

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Both our memories are faulty then because I also recall seeing that photo as well.

Like @Betta experienced, I'd commission with whomever responds and takes my inquiry seriously. Doubt there's much of a difference amongst the various brands within that price range anyways.
I assume going direct to the maker one could have max level of customization?

Even at same price range it is tempting to try getting directly from BW.
 

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I assume going direct to the maker one could have max level of customization?

Even at same price range it is tempting to try getting directly from BW.
I suppose that's true, yet you potentially face the threat of something lost in translation. I believe Betta mentioned the language barrier made it difficult. Consequently, a complex or detailed customization request could go horribly wrong.
 

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I suppose that's true, yet you potentially face the threat of something lost in translation. I believe Betta mentioned the language barrier made it difficult. Consequently, a complex or detailed customization request could go horribly wrong.
depends on the maker, but sometimes they will only do something outside their standard parameters if they have a relationship with the person/business putting in the order - naturally an agent can provide a useful intermediary there.
 

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depends on the maker, but sometimes they will only do something outside their standard parameters if they have a relationship with the person/business putting in the order - naturally an agent can provide a useful intermediary there.
Well there is no agent with BW, so the potential client is relegated to communicate with an individual who is potentially using a translation app. If that is indeed the case, even simple requests could be misinterpreted.

Personally, I'd be willing to forgo the customization options to have the intermediary assist (ie Oct.Tenth & Yeossal) during the creation process.
 

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Well there is no agent with BW, so the potential client is relegated to communicate with an individual who is potentially using a translation app. If that is indeed the case, even simple requests could be misinterpreted.

Personally, I'd be willing to forgo the customization options to have the intermediary assist (ie Oct.Tenth & Yeossal) during the creation process.
Good reason to learn Chinese.
 

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