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The fine line between dressing like an old man and a sharp GQ/Esquire guy.

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Reevolving, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. lee_44106

    lee_44106 Senior member

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    What happened to the "oh I only dress for myself", often spouted SF party line?


    Classic example of fantasy land meets reality.


    SF-approved and created fantasy bubble burst by the wise words of a real-life woman. [​IMG]
     
  2. acecow

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    SF-approved and created fantasy bubble burst by the wise words of a real-life woman. [​IMG]

    I'm sometimes scared that this might be true. The problem is I like new clothes, I like this style and I like the way I look wearing it. So far it hasn't been a negative influence on my personal life. And I do kind of dress for myself, because nobody ever notices it in Los Angeles anyway. People just don't seem to care. That's not to say I don't enjoy receiving compliments from people who understand.

    But your words are scary nonetheless, because part of me suspects it might be the reality.
     
  3. Saltricks

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    I'm sometimes scared that this might be true. The problem is I like new clothes, I like this style and I like the way I look wearing it. So far it hasn't been a negative influence on my personal life. And I do kind of dress for myself, because nobody ever notices it in Los Angeles anyway. People just don't seem to care. That's not to say I don't enjoy receiving compliments from people who understand.

    But your words are scary nonetheless, because part of me suspects it might be the reality.


    reality is relative. Believe that you look good and it will be true. (if someone tells you otherwise, assume they are schizophrenic)
     
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    4 pages of [​IMG]


    Self contradictory dribble [​IMG]


    What happened to the "oh I only dress for myself", often spouted SF party line?


    Classic example of fantasy land meets reality.


    SF-approved and created fantasy bubble burst by the wise words of a real-life woman. [​IMG]


    Often I think we do need reminding of this.

    "What do you mean my wool paisley tie isn't cool?"
     
  6. teddieriley

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    Some guys got it, some don't.
     
  7. Reevolving

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    The pants seem really high rise and blousey around the thighs. The jacket is also a generous fit. This makes you look old, I don't think its the formality of the clothes you are wearing. GQ/Esquire wear clothes that restrict movement.
    Also, the pants are low rise, and slung around my hips. No way they fit any slimmer. They're low rise b/w 10 and 11 inches. The Mabitex have more rise than the BR pants.
    When I saw the pictures, old man never entered my mind, just maybe a little bit boring I guess. .
    Mystery, you must realize that a non-trivial segment of SF are very low functioning, and susceptible to power of suggestion. Note that *I* framed this thread around "old man". Had I not said that, much fewer would have thought it, unsuggested. If you look, it is not different than any typical WAYWRN posting. Like you said, just a little boring. And maybe a bit much for a local bar. The jacket might bed a tad long, maybe an inch. But that's not going to elicit an old man comment. Think deeper. Note that no one has stopped to consider the girl may have literally have never met a guy under 40 who wears a blazer (or wears audible shoes with leather soles) She has a strong association with slacks and her grandfather, for example. She does not read fashion magazines, and has never seen a non-grey man in slacks. She works in a business casual / non-profit setting, and men at her work never dress professionally. In fact, consider that most men she knows own 1 jacket/tie for weddings, always wears jeans/shorts/sneakers, have square toed shoes, and do the "generic business casual" thing. In reality, at work and outside, I get dozens of compliments for every 1 negative. In fact, this is the first.
     
  8. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Senior member

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    4 pages of [​IMG]

    Self contradictory dribble [​IMG]

    What happened to the "oh I only dress for myself", often spouted SF party line?

    Classic example of fantasy land meets reality.

    SF-approved and created fantasy bubble burst by the wise words of a real-life woman. [​IMG]


    Illustrated Synopsis of this Thread Using Iconic SF Images

    1.a Gettin' ready for goin' out...checkin' all three nips

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    1.b Shavin'

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    2. Checkin' out the brim

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    3. Shoes? Bangin'

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    4.a Should I go casual in white Kiton jeans? Not tonite...dolphins say no

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    4.b How about the Simpsons Sheet Shirt?

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    4.c Or a Single Leg Trouser?

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    4.d With an eyepatch and a plastic briefcase?

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    4.e Or my smoothed crotch jeans?

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    NO WAY, JOSE!! Harrumph...goin' in the full kit

    5. Stoppin' by the bookstore before headin' out to the bar

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    6. Damn...it's Anne Hathaway at the bar!

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    7. Quick trip to the restroom to take a WAYWRN photograph for the Interwebz...bam!

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    8. Return to bar, but Anne is gone! Got into a fight with a miner

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    ...to be continued...



    - B
     
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    I have seen a lot of silly comments in this thread which I actually find quite interesting and a good example of the difficulties one may face when trying to "dress up" in an environment that tends to "dress down". A lot of grown up people are trying to look youthful by dressing like kids. So if you opt for dressing like a grown up, the risk of looking like an old man is real and must be considered. How to avoid it? I guess that for most people it will take a bit of trial and error. And this kind of threads, with pics, can indeed help. And I agree that there is a fine line that is easy to miss.
     
  11. voxsartoria

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    And this kind of threads, with pics, can indeed help.

    + 1


    - B
     
  12. Sazerac

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    I almost pissed myself at the paying with a personal check bit...

    But to the OP, to address your question seriously, I think the problem may have three parts to it:

    1) Boring choices. It doesn't matter how expensive any of the clothing is, there was nothing daring, or even remotely interesting, about the items chosen. There are no bold patterns or interesting fabrics -- at least that I could see in the photos. It's all too safe. The kind of thing a spy might wear if he absolutely must not, under any circumstances, stick out in a crowd. It's the kind of thing of a movie costume designer might put on an extra called "man at wine bar #4." It's the kind of thing a guy would eventually settle on wearing if he were meeting the evangelical Christian parents of his evangelical Christian girlfriend. This exacerbates the second problem, which is...

    2) Context. If everyone around you is wearing sneakers and jeans and sweatshirts (which is a bit generous for most sports bars) guess who didn't get the memo? You. For example, I have an off-white Zegna suit I wear in the summer. Much as I love to wear it, I wouldn't dream of wearing it even to a Michelin-rated restaurant when spending the weekend in the mountains. Just wouldn't be appropriate. By the same token I wouldn't show up in a tux to my kid's recital and say I was the best dressed guy in the room. I was the most incorrectly dressed.

    3) Stop caring. Maybe you disagree with all of the above. Then rock on, conservatively-dressed guy! That same woman who said you looked old may also like Justin Bieber and expect her date to be in a hoodie and jean shorts. If you like what you were wearing, then own it and forget her...and all of us, for that matter.

    Just a point, though... If you agree with the idea that maybe it was too boring, try broadening your horizons by picking up some street wear at a store that sells nothing but. Go to a good boutique downtown or in your local gay-friendly 'hood and get a whole new ensemble. See how you feel afterward and take your new style cues from that.
     
  13. 83glt

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    I dress "like an old man" all the time, and I've never had anything but compliments from women - saying how I look "sharp", and "put together" and what not. So it must be you.
     
  14. 83glt

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    Illustrated Synopsis of this Thread Using Iconic SF Images

    1.a Gettin' ready for goin' out...checkin' all three nips

    [​IMG]

    1.b Shavin'

    [​IMG]

    2. Checkin' out the brim

    [​IMG]

    3. Shoes? Bangin'

    [​IMG]

    4.a Should I go casual in white Kiton jeans? Not tonite...dolphins say no

    [​IMG]

    4.b How about the Simpsons Sheet Shirt?

    [​IMG]

    4.c Or a Single Leg Trouser?

    [​IMG]

    4.d With an eyepatch and a plastic briefcase?

    [​IMG]

    4.e Or my smoothed crotch jeans?

    [​IMG]

    NO WAY, JOSE!! Harrumph...goin' in the full kit

    5. Stoppin' by the bookstore before headin' out to the bar

    [​IMG]

    6. Damn...it's Anne Hathaway at the bar!

    [​IMG]

    7. Quick trip to the restroom to take a WAYWRN photograph for the Interwebz...bam!

    [​IMG]

    8. Return to bar, but Anne is gone! Got into a fight with a miner

    [​IMG]

    ...to be continued...



    - B


    Best post on SF EVAR?
     
  15. aj_del

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    ^^ Certainly one of the best, but Vox has several others of this caliber
     
  16. epa

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    ^^ Certainly one of the best, but Vox has several others of this caliber

    I don't know if one of the best, but it kind of "condenses" a lot of what is going on on SF...
     
  17. lou

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    You look like your pants are pulled up to your tits.


    Or to the mall for exercise.


    You have the body shape of an old man, and the fit of that outfit is not helping to dispel that image. You simply cannot hide the fact that your way out of shape. Your body is the foundation for your clothes, and your foundation is crap.

    Sign up and log in at MAB. Ask for some help and you will be talking to serious people who can help you.

    http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/index.php

    That forum is not full of BS.
     
  18. TRINI

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    Also, the pants are low rise, and slung around my hips.
    No way they fit any slimmer.
    They're low rise b/w 10 and 11 inches.
    The Mabitex have more rise than the BR pants.


    As an FYI - a rise of 10 - 11" isn't low rise. That's mid-rise. Low rise would be around 8.5 - 9.5".
     
  19. voxsartoria

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    Sign up and log in at MAB. Ask for some help and you will be talking to serious people who can help you.

    http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/index.php

    That forum is not full of BS.


    As an FYI - a rise of 10 - 11" isn't low rise. That's mid-rise. Low rise would be around 8.5 - 9.5".

    How many grams of protein shake should OP drink for each inch of trouser rise?

    [​IMG]


    - B
     
  20. epa

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    You have the body shape of an old man, and the fit of that outfit is not helping to dispel that image. You simply cannot hide the fact that your way out of shape. Your body is the foundation for your clothes, and your foundation is crap.

    Sign up and log in at MAB. Ask for some help and you will be talking to serious people who can help you.

    http://muscleandbrawn.com/forums/index.php

    That forum is not full of BS.


    Can you really determine the shape the OP is in from these photos? I see that he is not Schwarzenegger, but I cannot say that it is clearly a "body shape of an old man". Also, sometimes people adopt strange postures when taking photos.
     

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