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The Despos Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by emptym, Aug 27, 2010.

  1. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    Tuttofattoamano on "drape":

    "Founded in 1906 by Frederick Scholte's undercutter, Per Anderson, the house has been fairly faithful to their house cut of a soft, draped coat. Depending on which sources you consult, this can mean all sorts of things. I admit that I am not a fan of what I have seen from them, namely overly wide, droopy shoulders and lumpy, messy chests, not to mention the backs and the sleeves which I think could be improved a lot."

    Foof - don't mind him, though, he's just a tailor. You know, a guy who - um - does this shit for a living. Unlike you, who are a...wait, what are you again? A Rubinacci-owner. Ah. Carry on...


    There's a big difference between 'it can mean all sorts of things' and 'it can mean whatever the hell you want it to'.
     


  2. KObalto

    KObalto Senior member

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    Is this to mean Foo>Bull ?

    Please, University of Baltimore Law School here. [​IMG]
    I'll see your Clinton and raise you a:

    [​IMG]
     


  3. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Goon member

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    I am learning a lot about Despos's custom tailoring in in this thread.


    - B
     


  4. mafoofan

    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    Tuttofattoamano on "drape": "Founded in 1906 by Frederick Scholte’s undercutter, Per Anderson, the house has been fairly faithful to their house cut of a soft, draped coat. Depending on which sources you consult, this can mean all sorts of things. I admit that I am not a fan of what I have seen from them, namely overly wide, droopy shoulders and lumpy, messy chests, not to mention the backs and the sleeves which I think could be improved a lot." Foof - don't mind him, though, he's just a tailor. You know, a guy who - um - does this shit for a living. Unlike you, who are a...wait, what are you again? A Rubinacci-owner. Ah. Carry on...
    For an author to acknowledge that different sources mean different things by "drape" doesn't equate with the author himself not having a specific meaning, there being no correct meaning, or the different meanings not occupying a narrow space. Anyway, given that the author of the quotation above goes on to specifically suggest what he means, it should be enough to turn to that meaning. Under none of the meanings used in the ongoing debate over debate, including jeffreyd's, does this coat have "drape." You might want to note that Despos himself doesn't like drape. I'm also willing to bet a large sum that jefferyd himself would not call this coat a "drape" coat.
     


  5. George

    George Senior member

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    I am learning a lot about Despos's custom tailoring in in this thread. - B
    Lawyers.
     


  6. Despos

    Despos Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    IMPORTANT NOTICE: No media files are hosted on these forums. By clicking the link below you agree to view content from an external website. We can not be held responsible for the suitability or legality of this material. If the video does not play, wait a minute or try again later. I AGREE

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  7. mafoofan

    mafoofan THE FOO Dubiously Honored

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    Lawyers.

    Well, if someone wrongly thinks Despos does drape or that the coat in question is drape, it's learnin' 'bout Despo' to learn what drape is.
     


  8. whnay.

    whnay. Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Pictures of Despos work? Anyone? Anyone?
     


  9. Mark from Plano

    Mark from Plano Lifestyle change - no homo

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    Fixed
     


  10. Bull

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    Please, University of Baltimore Law School here. [​IMG]
    I'll see your Clinton and raise you a:

    [​IMG]


    I'm done. You, my friend, win the internets [​IMG]
     


  11. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Goon member

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    Lawyers.

    Warning...Despos Content...Warning!

    "The earnest and affable Chris Despos (not yet out of his 30s), of Despos Custom Tailoring, in Dallas, comes to New York to spend his two-week vacation studying patternmaking with the great master tailor Henry Stewart."

    - Professional Clothing Writer, G. Bruce Boyer, in Town & Country Magazine, November 1991

    The NYT obit from 1993 about Stewart. More and more on Stewart.


    - B
     


  12. George

    George Senior member

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    Warning...Despos Content...Warning! "The earnest and affable Chris Despos (not yet out of his 30s), of Despos Custom Tailoring, in Dallas, comes to New York to spend his two-week vacation studying patternmaking with the great master tailor Henry Stewart." - Professional Clothing Writer, G. Bruce Boyer, in Town & Country Magazine, November 1991 The NYT obit from 1993 about Stewart. - B
    So this was Mr Despos' Sensei. Made for Lee Marvin. I liked Marvin.
     


  13. Cary Grant

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    I am learning a lot about Despos's custom tailoring in in this thread.


    - B


    Says the king of the epic thread derail.
     


  14. voxsartoria

    voxsartoria Goon member

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    Says the king of the epic thread derail.

    The key to a good derail is clarity of taste in what should be sent over the cliff, engine belching smoke and passengers screaming.

    What was going on here wasn't that.


    - B
     


  15. Bull

    Bull Senior member

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    Under none of the meanings used in the ongoing debate over debate, including jeffreyd's, does this coat have "drape."

    Prithee tell, Foo - among the "meanings used in the ongoing debate" - you know, the "drape debate" that rages amongst a select group of internets iGent nerds like yourself - who retains the magical power to bestow legitimacy upon certain definitions and not others? Drape is - to me - like pornogrpahy to Justice Potter Stewart: "I know it when I see it." Most, I think, would agree with my definition.
     


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