take it from me - the CP training boot is one of the best purchases I've ever made (S/S 10). The construction is seriously nice, the detailing equally impressive, and they generally blow those kicks out o the water. If those were 50$, they'd be a deal - but the CP boots are in a different league altogether. If you can find a pair on sale, don't sleep. Trust. yeah you can find a pair relatively easily on ebay, I got mine there (and quickly resold on B&S), both times they went for around $230-240. Personally, I didn't like the look of the shoe. It looked a lot better from the side when unworn (even in person), but on my foot they always looked strange to me. But yeah, check ebay.