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[matadorpoeta]

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[alan]

Originally Posted by matadorpoeta

get it through your head man. put a rabbi, a priest, and an imam together and they will say they all believe in the same God. that is the official story.

Lots of people say a lot of things. Am i supposed to take it for granted?

Besides, id disagree with that statement. A lot of clerics would not say that, specially thsoe deeply involved in the study of their religions. I have taken courses in two of those religions and both of the teachers (one a cleric and the other deeply religious, have said otherwise).

Of course, in the media and for political correctness, theyll say so.

And every religion will try to claim that the older book was simply predicting their own.

To me its really simple logic. I dont understand how you can claim its the same god.

Does a jew believe in the same God as a muslim? how so? Muslims say God wrote the Kuran, jews say he didnt. How is it the same entity?

CHRISTianity is based on christ, jesus, god, sacrificing himself in human form to save us. Do any of the other religions believe that God is Jesus?

How are those 3 entities the same? i dont get it.......

 

[Britalian]

Originally Posted by matadorpoeta

proving evolution does not disprove God.


The two are usually cited as opposites. But recently, somewhat on the defensive, the religious have come up with ID; a halfway house which they can live with. Nice try.

 

[Britalian]

Originally Posted by alan

Muslims say God wrote the Kuran, ..

I thought God dictated the text.

 

[matadorpoeta]

Originally Posted by Britalian

The two are usually cited as opposites. But recently, somewhat on the defensive, the religious have come up with ID; a halfway house which they can live with. Nice try.
my point is that the concept of God is not exclusively religious. i believe in God and i don not believe in any religion. nice try.

 

[alan]

Originally Posted by matadorpoeta

my point is that the concept of God is not exclusively religious. i believe in God and i don not believe in any religion. nice try.

Do you believe that jews, muslims and christians believe in the same God as you?

 

[matadorpoeta]

Originally Posted by alan

Lots of people say a lot of things. Am i supposed to take it for granted?

Besides, id disagree with that statement. A lot of clerics would not say that, specially thsoe deeply involved in the study of their religions. I have taken courses in two of those religions and both of the teachers (one a cleric and the other deeply religious, have said otherwise).

Of course, in the media and for political correctness, theyll say so.

And every religion will try to claim that the older book was simply predicting their own.

To me its really simple logic. I dont understand how you can claim its the same god.

Does a jew believe in the same God as a muslim? how so? Muslims say God wrote the Kuran, jews say he didnt. How is it the same entity?

CHRISTianity is based on christ, jesus, god, sacrificing himself in human form to save us. Do any of the other religions believe that God is Jesus?

How are those 3 entities the same? i dont get it.......

"to those who do not understand, no explanation will suffice. to those who understand, no explanation is necessary."

 

[Britalian]

Originally Posted by matadorpoeta

my point is that the concept of God is not exclusively religious. i believe in God and i don not believe in any religion. nice try.

I'm sure there is enough channel bandwidth for another rag bag of a belief system.

 

[alan]

Originally Posted by matadorpoeta

"to those who do not understand, no explanation will suffice. to those who understand, no explanation is necessary."

You have not even tried to write any kind of explanation(unless u count "put a rabbi and priest in a room" as one). If you wish to no longer talk about this thats fine, but this sentence really means nothing in this context....

 

[matadorpoeta]

Originally Posted by alan

Do you believe that jews, muslims and christians believe in the same God as you?

there are 5 billion people in this world and with them 5 billion concepts of what God is and what "God" means.

i believe there is only one God to believe in, though of course everyone's idea of what It is will be based on their experience as individuals.

 

[matadorpoeta]

Originally Posted by Britalian

I'm sure there is enough channel bandwidth for another rag bag of a belief system.

there are a ton of people in the world who believe in God and do not consider themselves religious. you act as though this is something new.

 

[Britalian]

Originally Posted by matadorpoeta

there are a ton of people in the world who believe in God and do not consider themselves religious. .

I should expect so.

 

[RJman]

Originally Posted by matadorpoeta

there are 5 billion people in this world and with them 5 billion concepts of what God is and what "God" means.

i believe there is only one God to believe in, though of course everyone's idea of what It is will be based on their experience as individuals.
Aren't you the same guy who used to have the sig "Michael Jackson is innocent"?

 

[globetrotter]

islam, as far as i know, is based on the notion that everything in the bible is true, but that what God revealed to mohamet supersedes it.

actually, not quite - the idea is that the bible that we know was "corrupted" by the jews. the stories are similar, but very different. for instance, in the 3 or 4 situations in the bible where one son is chosen over another, in the koran the otehr son is the chosen one.

what was the arabic word for "god" before islam existed?

allah.

 

[Joel_Cairo]

is this jihadi

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