The CM Graveyard: First Sartoria Partenopea... next J. Crew?

[Riva]

yup agree, though maybe once suit become non essential it will catch on again just when you like to wear it

Or make it into something else. Deformalize them with less buttons or

 

[Nbarbar]

I thought it has been covered (not by Zara), like Eleventry sometimes got a bit BC vibe to it as well

My understanding is Eleventry is ex BC guys selling the look for less. Their whole business model was appropriating the aesthetic with poor, in relative terms to BC, fabrics.

 

[clee1982]

Or make it into something else. Deformalize them with less buttons or

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I have thought about it, but I have not yet see a modern suit alternative that execute well enough to my liking...

 

[Proleet]

My understanding is Eleventry is ex BC guys selling the look for less. Their whole business model was appropriating the aesthetic with poor, in relative terms to BC, fabrics.

Perhaps they’re also fine with a slightly less luxury markup factor/profit margin. Can’t imagine it’s all fabric costs...

 

[Nbarbar]

Perhaps they’re also fine with a slightly less luxury markup factor/profit margin. Can’t imagine it’s all fabric costs...

I'm sure any business would be happy with 70% of the BC markup. Its, Eleventy, is an interesting concept though, for me it fails in the fabrics and construction 'narrative' compared to BC. Although how many people are buying BC because of the fabrics and the narrative of Solomeo and how many are now buying it because Bezos and Zuck wear it non stop?

 

[crazn]

I'm sure any business would be happy with 70% of the BC markup. Its, Eleventy, is an interesting concept though, for me it fails in the fabrics and construction 'narrative' compared to BC. Although how many people are buying BC because of the fabrics and the narrative of Solomeo and how many are now buying it because Bezos and Zuck wear it non stop?

I think BC fabrics belong to the same level of Kiton etc. Possibly the narrative is driving sales more than the quality. The top of the quality pyramid isn’t that vast for diversity in suppliers. Eleventy if anything is BC for less. I do think they can produce BC level stuff, and they do produce some superlative items each season and if the interview quoted BC margin of 7x goes by, it means that even if eleventy has a lower margin, it still remains relatively profitable even if they use BC materials without BC overheads like maintaining an Italian village, restoring theatres etc.

 

[zr3rs]

... with poor, in relative terms to BC, fabrics.

I bought a pair of BC flannel trousers where not only ALL buttons popped off by just pulling slightly (which I fixed easily myself), but the fabric simply tore vertically at the back after about 10 wears without any external influence. Needless to say their service claimed it was excessive use.
Judging from this isolated example, I can only conclude (for myself) that their quality of fabrics and manufacturing is miles below their price level, though the aesthetics are appealing.

 

[Riva]

I bought a pair of BC flannel trousers where not only ALL buttons popped off by just pulling slightly (which I fixed easily myself), but the fabric simply tore vertically at the back after about 10 wears without any external influence. Needless to say their service claimed it was excessive use.
Judging from this isolated example, I can only conclude (for myself) that their quality of fabrics and manufacturing is miles below their price level, though the aesthetics are appealing.

Typical **** Italian quality that I saw even with Isaia, Rubinacci, Orazio, etc etc etc. Lots of hype surrounding big brand names and less real quality. While unknown brands like the Spanish Lopez Aragon are offering MTO G Inglese quality at Spier prices.

 

[Lancaster]

My understanding is Eleventry is ex BC guys selling the look for less. Their whole business model was appropriating the aesthetic with poor, in relative terms to BC, fabrics.

I have a few platinum pieces with top notch fabrics and construction. But my experience is anecdotal and limited to the few pieces I have.

 

[clee1982]

Dunhill on Madison closed, wonder if it’s permanen...

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guess they will keep one in Hudson Yard...

 

[smittycl]

Authentic Brands Group Bids $271 Million For Barneys, Plans to Close All 7 Stores

The licensing group is the preferred bidder in an auction that runs through Oct. 22. If the bid succeeds, liquidation could start soon after.

www.businessoffashion.com

Guess I'll get primed for the sale. Always loved Barneys. All stores apparently closing.

"The agreement Wednesday kicks off a final round of bidding before the ailing department store is auctioned off in bankruptcy court next week. Liquidation for store merchandise could begin as soon as next week, according to one vendor."

 

[Aquafortis]

Authentic Brands Group Bids $271 Million For Barneys, Plans to Close All 7 Stores

The licensing group is the preferred bidder in an auction that runs through Oct. 22. If the bid succeeds, liquidation could start soon after.

www.businessoffashion.com

Guess I'll get primed for the sale. Always loved Barneys. All stores apparently closing.

"The agreement Wednesday kicks off a final round of bidding before the ailing department store is auctioned off in bankruptcy court next week. Liquidation for store merchandise could begin as soon as next week, according to one vendor."

Well so it will be. I wonder what they'll do with fragrances like Frédéric Malle that never ever is discounted anywhere?

 

[SimonC]

Authentic Brands Group Bids $271 Million For Barneys, Plans to Close All 7 Stores

The licensing group is the preferred bidder in an auction that runs through Oct. 22. If the bid succeeds, liquidation could start soon after.

www.businessoffashion.com

Guess I'll get primed for the sale. Always loved Barneys. All stores apparently closing.

"The agreement Wednesday kicks off a final round of bidding before the ailing department store is auctioned off in bankruptcy court next week. Liquidation for store merchandise could begin as soon as next week, according to one vendor."

Putting out a distress call for @SpooPoker

 

[smittycl]

Well so it will be. I wonder what they'll do with fragrances like Frédéric Malle that never ever is discounted anywhere?

I would guess the snootier brands will want their stuff back or mandate a sale price they are comfortable with? Don't high-end brands actually destroy product lest it be tainted by a sale?

 

[bry2000]

RTV: return to vendor