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The CM Graveyard: First Sartoria Partenopea... next J. Crew?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by jrd617, Jun 13, 2017.

  1. LA Guy

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    The coolest politician: The Right Honourable Pierre Elliott Trudeau
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    dieworkwear Mahatma Jawndi Dubiously Honored

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    One of the best dressed politicians of the 20th century. And one of the only well-dressed ones.
     

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    I wonder if his tailor's opinion got completely bypassed during the bespoke process.
     

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    What I'm saying is that this is pretty normal for a (very small) subset of the British population. There was a time I thought suits should look like that, and folks with a "SF CM" aesthetic were a bit clownish (even a cutaway collar - not something our headmaster would have done for example). It's not supposed to "look good" (although it will, if that's what you've lived around all your life), it's supposed to look gray, sober, and hide your middle age body and be comfortable to live in. Like a robe for a priest. A Lutheran, rather than Catholic, priest.

    I am certain he asked his tailor to make it that way.
     

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    Anthony Eden? Different era, I know, but he was considered an icon for refined taste throughout his career arguably influencing mens fashion on several occasions.
     

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    dieworkwear Mahatma Jawndi Dubiously Honored

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    Yes, he was another good one.

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    Now that you mentioned it I think he really did ask for a jacket robe. IMO it wasn't even to project a certain image but purely for comfort. Either he was very courageous or knew very well the world he dwelt in didn't give a damn.
     
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    When you live in a suit 24/7 like a Member of Parliament I'm quite sure comfort is very high on the list. For that, I can't think of any UK official who is publicly accountable that would wear noticeably expensive clothing.

    Rees-Mogg has always been a young fogey as it is. I sat next to him at the cricket maybe thirteen years ago now (he would have been 36) and he looked, acted and dressed like he was 75 even then. To be fair it was Lord's so the majority do.

    It is no wonder he is referred to in Parliament as the "Honourable Member for the 18th century".

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    Bespoke in UK by itself is already an expensive luxury to the rest of the world. He might as well have chosen something stylish instead of noticeably odd.
     

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    The man is the son of an aristocrat, educated at Eton college, and worth over £100 million...I think he can afford not to be stylish in his choices.

    "He entered politics in 1997 and, while canvassing for the seat in Fife, was driven around in a Mercedes by his nanny. ‘I was going to take my Bentley, but she wisely said that this would be seen as ostentatious and I should take Mummy’s Mercedes instead.’" Source.
     

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    You meant billions? Plenty of SF members own that much and we're stylish :)
     

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    Well now we're onto the nuances of upper class English taste. Where's Vox when you need him.
     

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    He’s not the son of an aristocrat. His dad was editor of the Times. Weirdly he has always had a much posher accent than his dad did, which illustrates how affected his personality is. It’s funny people always mistake him for an aristo. No one with a hereditary title has behaved like Jacob since the ‘50s.

    I also doubt his suits are bespoke. Very likely off the peg from somewhere like Ede & Ravenscroft.
     

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