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The best Oxford shirt


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Jun 21, 2019
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Hi guys, following up here. I’m quite short , 5”7 with a regular build and looking for a good Oxford that I can wear that doesn’t feel like a dress untucked haha.

I’ve seen Kamakura mentioned, have any fellow shorter guys liked the fit there? Any other recommendations ?

I am 174cm and can wear the Kamakura 38-82 size OCBD (SPORTS fit) untucked comfortably.


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May 14, 2024
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I would recommend Drake’s. Expensive, yes, but the fabric, collar and quality are solid. Kamakura has been recommended above, but compared point by point, the Drake’s OCBD simply blows it away. The collar is better than Kamakura’s flimsy one, the fabric is a much more robust oxford-weave and Kamakura’s small, yellow river shell buttons can not hold a candle to Drake’s beautiful MOP buttons. Granted, the Drake’s one costs twice as much. It can be had on the Archive sales for close to the msrp of the Kamakura, though.
I loved Old Navy's OCBD from about 10 years ago. Great cloth with a pocket. They were perfect. Then they stopped carrying them and I can't find any like them that are navy blue color. I don't like the light colors too much.


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Aug 21, 2017
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I recently picked up two Drakes oxfords and I’m finding the shoulders to be uncomfortably narrow. They sit at least half inch higher up my shoulder on each side compared to Borrelli, JPress, or Brooks.

I wanted to like them — the hand on the fabric is soft and incredible and the collar is lovely. The body and sleeves were a nice cut —not too slim not too billowy. Unfortunately, the shoulders are cramped and uncomfortable and with a jacket off, I look like I’m wearing a much too slim shirt from 2010. I’m 6ft ~160 so not a large frame either. Don’t know how you all fit into these.

if there was something in the ~200 range with the hand and collar of drakes with wider shoulders I’d be all over it.

You can do MTO remotely and add width to the yoke. I think they're $100 more though. They'll give you a free white OCBD or Poplin for ever three shirts ordered also I believe.

Club Soda

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Apr 9, 2023
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Drake's easyday shirts come without a locker loop in the back and also lack the gusset. They are a little bit shorter in the body too. If I am not mistaken, the Easyday line was designed with "younger" customers in mind, who might want to wear their shirts untucked.
I'm glad they ditched the easy day stuff; the ties were more narrow too.


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Oct 16, 2018
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Has anyone bought the "Ametora" line from Kamakura? Seems like more Mercer & Sons originalist than the Vintage Ivy: 6 button front, longer collars, fuller cut, unlined, more luxury fabrics. Curious to have your thoughts and experience


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