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I'm wearing my RTW Pierre Corthay oxfords and I can't fit my pinky down the heel.I mean you would demand better fit from RTW
Thanks. I went and checked the shoes again this morning -- to give it a day before replying and see how they fit again. I realized that the oxfords felt strange near the heel because they use more padding under the heel than I've seen in any other shoe, so the drop off from padding under the heel to the rest of the foot is noticeable. Maybe that will go away with time? I compared it to the other GC shoes and other shoes in my closet and didn't see anything like it. Has anybody else experienced something like this? I was wondering whether it might have been their attempt to resolve the issue I had with the loafer heels, but making the heel feel odd.
I also am including photos of the loafer heels to show how differently they fit. On the heel of the right shoe, there is a little space between the top of the shoe and my ankle, but that seems to be within a margin. I used a sharpie to show the relative space. At that point, the sharpie is poking my foot, so it wouldn't go down further. By comparison, on the other heel, the sharpie goes all the way down to the shoe - there's more space, still, between the heel of the shoe and my foot.
While including an autographed picture of Stallone and Statham in the box.Would be funny if he sent them back to be adjusted and Clev just glued a Sharpie in the back.
"Here you go, sir."
I'd say the fitting on the loose pair is unnaceptable for a bespoke shoe. Could you please post pictures of the shoes? The look nice though.
The oxfords aren't good at all. The first picture is pretty noticeable that they just tried to short cut it. The fact that they just padded the heel instead of remaking hoping you would be satisfied is terrible. Both pairs need to be remade.GC did respond fairly quickly and offered to re-make the shoe because the spacing is too great. I'm going to include all the photos of the loafers to highlight again where they need fixing. They also confirmed that the higher padding in the heel of the oxfords was to compensate for the heel. It's not a fix that makes me terribly happy because the extra padding is noticeable as I step in it.
In general, as I took photos in better light, I was more disappointed with the oxfords for a lot of finishing/leather issues. This is my first pair of alligator shoes, but as you can see in a few places, the leather arrived torn or in poor condition. Is this acceptable? I know that it's hard to get a good, wholecut alligator skin, so I don't want to have unreasonable expectations.
For the loafers, I used pins to highlight the real fit issue. The left shoe (in the heel) is simply too large. The right shoe better in the heel, but far too tight. The pin closer to the toe of the shoe is where the shoe has been short (and feels as though my toe is being compressed. The space between the two pins is where the shoe needs to be let out; it's too tight there.
Edited to include GC's response - and to note that I will be sending them back to be remade.
The oxfords aren't good at all. The first picture is pretty noticeable that they just tried to short cut it. The fact that they just padded the heel instead of remaking hoping you would be satisfied is terrible. Both pairs need to be remade.
I spoke of my experience of my first pair of John Lobb Paris bespoke. When I first got the shoes they were too big and they told me to wear them until Paul came back to Houston. He would look at it then. When he saw the shoes, it was no questions asked. He marked them up and the shoes were remade. They didn't just add padding to make it fit more snug.
at least they own it now, hopefully the next turn would be much better.
edit: though I would be super annoyed too, given how long bespoke take to start with...
Those shoes remind me of a shop in Hong Kong I ordered shoes twenty years ago - bespoke made in 24 hours for $300. These are like $4-10,000 shoes right? Shocking