- Apr 10, 2011
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I don't think I ever said to not trust the people you hired to make things. I wouldn't place an order if I did not trust them.I don't understand how these positions are at odds with one another. I still think that people should trust the people they've hired to make them things. And that, once you receive the item, the quality of that item should be apparent. The quality of my GC shoes were pretty apparent when I received them. So was the quality of my Templeman shoes.
I'm sure a Chinese person can make technically good shoes. I just don't care for the aesthetics.
The people who made the sample shoes aren't the same people who make your shoes, genius. I thought you knew everything about bespoke shoes?I don't need to receive a pair of GC to see the problems with them. My opinion is that if you paid more attention to how shoes are made, the flaws would have been clear right from the start. I am sure you get to see at least some sample shoes in person before you place an order right? From my perspective, your statement is really arguing semantics. In any case, I hope your order gets sorted out in a satisfactory manner.
Is this the "Bespoke Shoes" thread?The people who made the sample shoes aren't the same people who make your shoes, genius. I thought you knew everything about bespoke shoes?
The people who made John Lobb's samples are probably dead. Same with some of Foster's samples. This is true for many of the big houses. When you get new workers, it's not like you're going to create samples for every permutation of a set of workers.Is this the "Bespoke Shoes" thread?
I don't speak for everyone but that's certainly not true in my shop...or in any other bespoke maker's shop that I know of. I don't even know why that would be true unless the outfit is using outworkers.
Not sure that's the same thing although I guess it could fall under the heading of assumptive or implicit deception. But what you're talking about is more like recorded history. A museum of all that has gone before.There’s some absolutely beautiful shoes in the cabinets of the big west end firms. You can go and see old Maxwells boots, Tuczek chisel toes, Codner Coombs & Dobbie derbies, New & Lingwood etc etc within a 5 minute walk of a few shops. Don’t know how well that represents what you’ll be buying though. No one who I ever made a last for back then had seen an example of my work before, or that of the other workers there at the time, but plenty of 64 stitch to the inch Wellington boots made long before I was born
Was that aimed at me or dww?
I don't know if this is directed at me. I have no attachment to bespoke makers or, frankly, even the industry. If someone does bad work, I'm perfectly fine with saying they do bad work. I've also said on numerous occasions that most bespoke is terrible. When things go well, and if you happen to appreciate the craft, then nothing else really compares. But the field is very uneven and it's often over-romanticized.Well, with all due respect and IMO only, you seem to exist for the sole purpose of criticizing and denigrating the very people you say you admire. It's liike you want the maker to fail or to disappoint you in some way or the other.