The Apple Discussion Thread

[venividivicibj]

Couldn't the EU have forced apple to go usb-C like a week earlier?

Europe will require USB-C chargers. Apple isn't happy

The European Union proposed new rules on Thursday that will make USB-C ports standard on smartphones, tablets, cameras, phones, portable speakers and handheld video game systems.

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honestly, sounds like a terrible idea. we're gonna have outdated ass usb-c ports on a bunch of systems in like 10 years...

 

[Omega Male]

Yeah, imagine if they’d decided this was the way with usb-a a few years ago? It’s very stupid.

 

[CWV]

Probably looking to pick up a 13mini tomorrow.

Is there stock in stores?

 

[otc]

honestly, sounds like a terrible idea. we're gonna have outdated ass usb-c ports on a bunch of systems in like 10 years...

I don't know if they have any provisions for future port designs, but I mostly agree that this sounds like a bad idea with issues down the road.

But as of today, apple is the only asshole company not using usb-C.

And they already use it on all but the cheapest ipad and all of their laptops...

 

[ter1413]

Is there stock in stores?

Yessir. I'm in NYC. Checked online yesterday.

 

[Jr Mouse]

USB-C as a standard is adaptable. Charging speeds and data rates can be improved over time. It's not a strict standard. That's why some USB-C ports can handle Thunderbolt whiles others can not.

They also have provisions to upgrade the standard in the future if needed. So if a smaller, better standard comes along the EU can transition to it.

What a lot of people don't realize is USB-C is larger then Lightening. Apple is not going to be happy having to design around a larger port if it comes to that.

Still I think this is a lot of drama over what will end up being nothing. Apple's headed to a portless future. If anything this will speed that process along.

 

[Omega Male]

Still I think this is a lot of drama over what will end up being nothing. Apple's headed to a portless future. If anything this will speed that process along.

Definitely agree. As far as physical features go, the design priorities for future iPhones are get rid of the camera bumps, get rid of the notch and get rid of the connector.

 

[the shah]

Definitely agree. As far as physical features go, the design priorities for future iPhones are get rid of the camera bumps, get rid of the notch and get rid of the connector.

the camera bump has gotten bigger due to the larger sensor requiring a large refactoring of internal layout, and the notch hasn't shrunk in the right dimension (it got slightly less wide but the vertical real estate is the same as before)

some phones have now hidden hole-punch cameras but they produce horrible quality photos. not that I care since for me the front-facing camera is only for video calls

 

[greekgeek]

USB-C as a standard is adaptable. Charging speeds and data rates can be improved over time. It's not a strict standard. That's why some USB-C ports can handle Thunderbolt whiles others can not.

They also have provisions to upgrade the standard in the future if needed. So if a smaller, better standard comes along the EU can transition to it.

What a lot of people don't realize is USB-C is larger then Lightening. Apple is not going to be happy having to design around a larger port if it comes to that.

Still I think this is a lot of drama over what will end up being nothing. Apple's headed to a portless future. If anything this will speed that process along.

Could be, but iPad is already on USB-C. doesn't seem like a big difference to use it within iPhone package space, all the high end Androids already use it.

They might even get some PR out of it, reframe it as re: environmental benefits.

 

[CWV]

Is the iPhone 13 being sold unlocked at bestbuy?

 

[otc]

What a lot of people don't realize is USB-C is larger then Lightening. Apple is not going to be happy having to design around a larger port if it comes to that.

Is that true (or meaningful) for the port side of the equation?

The lightning plug is thinner, but it has the contacts on the outside--so the jack has to incorporate spring pins on the outside.

USB-c has the spring pins on the cable. The jack only needs to be thick enough to fit the plug, since the electronics themselves are on the inside. I found at least one design schematic where the max receptacle thickness is only 0.6mm thicker than the connector--since all you need on the outside is a little metal shielding.

I couldn't find the same diagrams for lightning parts (because apple literally won't license lightning receptacles to people...), but based on some photos of repairs for iphone charging ports, the whole lightning assembly is at least 3x the size of the lightning plug--even more so since apple appears to always surface mount it on a PCB (probably because they have the proprietary chip integrated that stops people from making knockoff lightning jacks)

That would make it thicker than a USB-c jack, especially one that mounts in a cutout/on the edge of a PCB rather than stacking on top.

 

[lefty]

Anyone pick up the 13 pro max?

I have a XR and am happy with it but it's probably time for an upgrade. My wife picked up the 13 pro and it feels too small and light in my hand.

How much larger is the max?

lefty

 

[staminapot]

pro is 6.1 inch and max is 6.7. For the weight, 13 max is heavier than 12 max.

 

[breakaway01]

Max is big enough that it's difficult to use with one hand. That basically ruled it out for me.

 

[HRoi]

My AirPods started acting up the week before they announced the new AirPods. Coincidence? I THINK NOT