The Apple Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by ChetB, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. ethanm

    ethanm Senior member

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    The retina display almost seems useless too since the thing is too underpowered to edit photos or videos.

    Edit: I stand corrected.
     
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  2. gomestar

    gomestar Super Yelper

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    False. It takes porn to a whole new level, and that's where the retina display really shines.
     


  3. NaTionS

    NaTionS Senior member

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    What is your estimated ship date for the macbook?
     


  4. GreenFrog

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    Per my order status:

    Preparing for Shipment Available to ship: 1-3 business days
    Delivers: Apr 20 - Apr 22 by Standard Shipping
     


  5. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Senior member

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    Just left my local Apple Store after trying on the watches. Also played with the new MacBooks. Will poast my impressions when I get home. Took a lot of pics too.
     


  6. ChetB

    ChetB Senior member

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    Watches are backordered until June/July already. Made an appointment to try one on tomorrow.
     


  7. ipractice

    ipractice Senior member

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    I just came back from trying out the new Macbook too. It was... underwhelming to say the least. What it lacked in hardware I was hoping would be made up for in design.

    The highlights are obviously the form factor and display. Both incredible, and the screen in particular looks better than any I've seen, including my 15inch MBP retina. Reminds me very much of the clarity of a retina iPad, high resolution on a compact screen and the dense pixel ratio makes everything look better. It's as light as everyone says, although the difference between an older Air and this one seems more of a novelty. The lighter weight is nice, but is it necessary? Not really. Not much to comment on force touch. I didn't get a chance to play with it enough, but I can't think of any alarming issues it would cause.

    Two things really bothered me though. The screen did not feel solid, it would wobble and reminded me of cheap laptops half its cost. The second, and what matters even more to me, is the shallowness of the keyboard. I'd read about it already but I knew it was something I would have to experience for myself. I'm use to typing on mechanical keyboards, so in comparison even MBP keys are too shallow for my taste but manageable. The new Macbook's keys are so shallow they hardly return any feedback. As I tried typing, I wasn't entirely sure some of my keystrokes were even registering. The only benefit I see to the keyboard is that unlike cheaper laptops, there's obviously no flex due to apple's design and in theory its more accurate since the keys can be activated from any part of it's surface; although that has never been an issue for me in the past with apple keyboards.

    Really wanted to love it, but glad I played with it before pre-ordering. 2x or 3x gen looks promising but I'll have to wait. And FYI, as you guys might have heard, Apple seems to be moving away from in store stock on new products. Even though the macbook is available today, if you go into the store they're basically going to order it online for you and you'd get it in 2-3 days.
     
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  8. gomestar

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    checked out the watch. It really is nice looking.


    my brother can get me one for half off. Hmm.
     


  9. GreenFrog

    GreenFrog Senior member

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    Apple Watch:

    First things first, it's a lot smaller than you'd think. That goes for both the 38 and 42 mm versions. It's got a nice weight to it and they look really fucking good. I have bitch wrists so I opted for the 38 SS and milanese. It fit me perfectly; so, I'm glad I was able to confirm I pre-ordered the right model.

    The crown / wheel had much less resistance to scrolling than I thought it'd have. Very oil-like. I think I'd prefer one with more resistance, but it's hard to know for sure. There's a lot more to learn in terms of UI and navigation, so the learning curve is going to be much steeper compared to the normal apple product. And once people have customized their watches to their liking, I think they'll find ways to make it useful to their lives.

    Taptic feedback is nice. You can't miss it. Can't wait to see what developers can do with this.

    The link bracelet is very nice. It's also very heavy and gives the entire watch a really weighty feel. I don't think it's worth the $450, or w/e it is, price tag. The sport models are noticeably lighter and the finish is smooth and refined. I don't like the look of brushed aluminum, so it wasn't for me. But if you're looking to get the gray SS, I think you'd be just fine with the gray sports watch. It's a lot darker, too -- not the light shade of 'space grey' you get with the iPhones. You can save some $$ going that route.

    The sports bands feel like quality; no cheapness to them at all.

    Overall, I left much more impressed than I thought I'd be. I'm super stoked to get my watch.

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    Macbook:

    Contrary to the watch, I left slightly underwhelmed. The screen is nice and it's very small and light. But the two things that I weren't exactly blown away by were the keyboard and force touch trackpad. Like the above poster mentioned, there is very very little travel to the keys. It's not necessarily a bad feeling, but it definitely takes some getting used to. I think after a week or so of use, I won't mind it at all. Some people preferred it, actually.

    The trackpad is cool, but it doesn't give you that satisfying click feedback. It does feel like it's clicking, but it feels hollow. Kind of hard to explain. It's nifty for sure.

    I hated how the USB-C plugs in. It's not like magsafe where it just clicks in seamlessly. You have to fumble around a bit and look at it while plugging it in. I imagine a lot of people are going to end up scraping / scratching the area around the port trying to plug it in.

    In terms of performance, you can tell it's not as fast as any of the other Apple macbooks. It takes a good 0.5 seconds to shut down Safari, for example, whereas it's practically instant with all other models. This will still bring much better performance than what I'm used to with my current MBA (from 2010), but I've owned a rMBA 15" before and it's obviously not as speedy as that.

    Speakers are loud as fuck, so it has that going for it.

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  10. NaTionS

    NaTionS Senior member

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    What did you think of the screen resolution on the Macbook? Highest scaling is 1440x900, which isn't a lot of real estate, especially when you have two windows side by side.
     


  11. GreenFrog

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    I scaled it to 1440 x 900 for testing and it was more than adequate for me. I tend to use full screen for all my apps and look at them one at a time, so the two windows side-by-side thing is a non-issue for me.

    It's very fucking sharp -- I think even sharper than the rMBPs, but hard to say for sure. I will echo that the screen didn't feel as secure as I'd hoped. It's a bit wobbly and moves back / forth a little too easily. Could use more resistance.
     


  12. ipractice

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    At the library in a pretty affluent neighborhood and already seeing an older lady (she looks ~60ish) with the 12 inch MB... seems like the exact type of customer it's targeted towards. Bet she does some intense web browsing and youtube watching haha.

    Jokes aside, something to note: iirc, the 2011 MBA launched with similar issues, with the two primary arguments being that it didn't fit the current market in what it offered and prices were way too high. Within 6 months prices dropped $200-300, and 6 months after that a refresh. Would be worth holding out till at least a price drop or deal IMO.
     
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  13. NaTionS

    NaTionS Senior member

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    Which city or general area are you located? Everything I've read seemed to indicate that no stores have any available for sale, only display units.
     


  14. hopkins_student

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    I'm irritated that on Wednesday the Apple Store staff told me they would have MacBooks in stock today and they clearly don't. On the other hand I really liked the feel of the Macbook. Very excited about getting it.
     


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