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New mac pro is neat though. Glad to see a true tower mac back in existence (even if I would never buy one myself).
 

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$1000 for a stand? Maybe IKEA could offer an alternative.
 

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Brought my keyboard into to be fixed and it broke less than a week later. :fu:
 

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My 6 week old MacBook AIr crashes one to two times a day. No keyboard issues though.
That's not good. My 6 mo old one hasn't crashed once, I don't think, not even w/ Word (several docs), Safari (several tabs, even playing Netflix), Skype, Photos, Messages running at the same time. I wonder what's causing your issues. Have you taken it in?
 
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Finally Apple will change.
Wait, so am I reading this correctly?

1. A new Macbook Air will be introduced with the old scissor keyboard.
2. A new Macbook Pro will have the old butterfly keyboard.

That seems weird to me, but I don't really care since I'm only going to buy the Air. I don't understand why they would stick with the buttefly for the Pro though since it's ostensibly going to cost them a lot of money to continually fix.

But I also assume:

1. Current Macbook Airs will still have the butterfly -- it's impossible to switch to a scissor
2. Therefore, people like me, who bought a new Air this year, will just have to buy yet another laptop later this year when the scissor Air is introduced.

Is that right?
 

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Apple will wait until next years redesign to put the new (old) keyboard in the pro. Seems stupid to me selling a product with a well known defect. Still glad I bought my new pro before the switch.
 

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Thanks.

I'm not thrilled with the fact that I have to buy a new laptop, but the butterfly on mine is really, really annoying. Just typing this entry, I've had to backspace delete about five times because things double register.
 

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Wait, so am I reading this correctly?

1. A new Macbook Air will be introduced with the old scissor keyboard.
2. A new Macbook Pro will have the old butterfly keyboard.

That seems weird to me, but I don't really care since I'm only going to buy the Air. I don't understand why they would stick with the buttefly for the Pro though since it's ostensibly going to cost them a lot of money to continually fix.

But I also assume:

1. Current Macbook Airs will still have the butterfly -- it's impossible to switch to a scissor
2. Therefore, people like me, who bought a new Air this year, will just have to buy yet another laptop later this year when the scissor Air is introduced.

Is that right?
To be fair, I’d say just use the Air and be happy with it. To me the reliability of the butterfly keyboard is the issue, the feel is great (my opinion obviously). So, unless you do have an issue, why worry about it? Also the new Airs that came out today still use the butterfly switches, so I don’t think anything keyboard related will be fixed until 2020 anyway. I’d be astonished if Apple releases new scissor switch Airs this year (not going to happen). Maybe it will be on new MBPs this fall with the new rumored 16” model.

As for costs, I assume the fix has quite an operational overhead, new chassis, machining, etc. At Apple’s scale, and considering they have to fix keyboards they already sold for years to come, they’re probably not in a hurry to fix the issue for cost reasons. Personally I think it’s more a customer satisfaction and brand perception problem.
 

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Thanks.

I'm not thrilled with the fact that I have to buy a new laptop, but the butterfly on mine is really, really annoying. Just typing this entry, I've had to backspace delete about five times because things double register.
Just read this post. Yeah if you’re having these issues then you’re in the rock-hard-place spot. In my experience with a keyboard repair the full bottom case had to be switched (I.e. new computer minus the monitor) so it shouldn’t happen again so quickly. Maybe they have changed how they do repairs, or maybe you’re unlucky. Either way it sounds super annoying. Maybe time to switch to an iPad Pro with a keyboard cover. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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