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The Apple Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Fine Living, Home, Design & Auto' started by ChetB, Sep 10, 2013.

  1. otc

    otc Stylish Dinosaur

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    I hate the dongle shit too...but isn't the lightning adapter supposed to be on par with the old iphone's 3.5mm jack's DAC? If you were happy with the 3.5, you'll probably be happy with the dongle.
     


  2. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Distinguished Member

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    If that's true, then sure, I'd be ok with just using that. The ATH-DSR9BT's were my first foray into bluetooth headphones but they weren't cheap. I got 'em on sale but retail is over $500, and I was shocked at how they couldn't even compare to some $150 wired cans. If using a single inexpensive adapter can replicate the sound of the 6s then I'm fine with just going that route. Does anyone know what DAC is actually used in those adapters?
     


  3. Fred G. Unn

    Fred G. Unn Distinguished Member

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    It seems like there are several other companies now manufacturing a lightning to 3.5mm DAC. Has anyone tried any of these? If so, how do they compare to the $9 Apple adapter?

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  4. phosej

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    Been using the iPhone X for a few days now and even though I really wanted to like this phone, I'm not happy with the experience out of the box. It's surprisingly thick and heavy, Face ID is buggy and doesn't work close up or at angles, the screen is wasted because apps (even apple's own apps) are unoptimized for it, and animojis got old after 15 minutes. Nitpicks: the finishing on the stainless steel band is tactilely unpleasant, I keep hitting the dictation button when I'm typing (and you can't remove it), no battery percentage without swiping down, hard to use one handed even with reachability and the back of the phone gets pretty hot even from just watching youtube. Although I will say the A11 bionic chip is very fast, true-tone screen is beautiful, camera is great as always, new swipe gestures are easy to learn, and the notch doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would.

    So I bought an 8 as well (not fan of the plus form factor) and will be using them side by side to see which one I prefer. Taking advantage of Apple's extended holiday return policy, so by January I will decide on either the X or 8 as I am coming from the 6. Chris Porillo's sentiments are warranted: the 8 is the most polished and refined (read: boring) version of one style and build and UX, whereas the X is the clunky first-gen (reminds me of the original brick-like iPods actually) mash-up of hardware and software that still needs the thinner/lighter/optimization treatment.
     


  5. kasper007

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    I just use the lightning to 3.5mm converter that came with my phone (and Etymotic wired earphones). Given it cost $10, the DAC isn't the greatest, but I pretty much exclusively listen to compressed music in loud environment on my phone and given serious options start at like $200 and go up from there, I doubt a better DAC would provide a tangible benefit to me. Your setup / habit might be different, but I would think unless you listen to lossless music in a quiet environment with really, really nice headphones, the apple adapter will do. This guy believes that the apple adapter is all you need unless you own headphones that needs to be powered.

    On wireless though, I think the best sounding bluetooth headphone today sounds about as good as $30-$50 wired headphones (and I think I am being generous) so we are quite a ways before wireless sound quality is any good.
     


  6. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    This is correct. I was surprised they pulled that off with a $9 dongle but they did. The lightning adaptors DAC is supposed to be on par with the DAC in the old iPhones.
     


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