Nice try. I note you did not even reply to my many strong and cogent arguments why balls to the wall training is the best and most effective method and not the exclusive realm of drug taking pro body builders. Instead you resorted to direct personal queries against me. You obviously do not realize whether I look or do not look like Reeves or Jay doesn’t matter. As long as others achieve results or look better than the biceps brigade, that matters. By default, I am right and hence have won the argument. I expect your full support and to be a loyal adherent for my above theories in future. Thanks, I will quote your support in future. In other words, you're a moron and you have yet to support your claims with any evidence. Saying there's evidence is different from actually presenting some, so, present EVIDENCE. You get one more post before I write you off forever as a wannabe idiot, who decided one day they were going to get HUGE, read some threads on BB.com about "balls to the walls training" and "FEAR FAKTOR BENCHZ" and became an expert overnight, despite already having lost their original motivation to train and achieve anything.