Taylor Stitch - Official Affiliate Thread

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by taylorstitch, Jun 7, 2012.

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  1. ricedaddy

    ricedaddy Well-Known Member

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    I think I'll be ok buying TS made in China after this initial shock, but maybe might have to justify it more since the price will be the same. I am confident the quality will still just as good.

    Anyone have their sweatshirts? comments? (hopefully they restock those)
     
  2. Bryanb55

    Bryanb55 Well-Known Member

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    Damn. The bloom is really off the rose now. I am getting tired of seeing "Proudly made in China". This is obviously a new direction aimed at cutting manufacturing costs. I sincerely doubt we will see lower retail costs. One of the MAIN reasons I spent money with TS is to have proudly American made products that are built to last.

    I haven't bought anything from Everlane but I do appreciate their transparency in identifying and showcasing the exact Chinese factories that make their products. TS would have to do at least as much as Everlane to get me to buy any Chinese made products in the future. There are a ton of great clothing companies still making products in the US and I will be adjusting purchases accordingly.

    BOO.
     
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    At least Everlane has a price point that is more fitting to their Made in China business model. I can't justify paying TS Made in USA prices on imported products.
     
  4. Bryanb55

    Bryanb55 Well-Known Member

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    I had a long back and forth with Mike Maher yesterday about this and they have a long written response to share with anyone who downvotes TS products made in China:

    The American factories they were using are no more ethical than the Chinese factories.
    The American factories are staffed with immigrants, not Americans.
    The American factories are not producing the quality that the Chinese can (even mentioned 20 stitches per inch on Yosemite samples from China that Portugal can't handle).
    The clothing industry is a major source of pollution and the Chinese factories are newer and more efficient (less waste, pollution).

    I appreciate the thought they put into the information he shared. There are plenty of counterpoints to make about pollution increase from importing from overseas and not spending money in the US among others.

    I mentioned looking at small brands that do it themselves (Railcar) and others that are sticking with the Made in America pledge (Freenote Cloth among others). They countered that Railcar will always be small and that Freenote uses the same factories they do in the U.S.

    It appears to be an agree to disagree situation for me. I am going to avoid TS products made in china. If it looks like they are making that move for their entire product line I will take my name off the mailing list.
     
  5. gaseousclay

    gaseousclay Senior member

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    Railcar, Freenote, Rogue Territory, 3sixteen and a few other brands choose to keep production here in the US because they know that it's important to their customers. If they outsourced their product overseas they'd probably lose a lot of customers. Yes, they're denim companies, but they still market and sell clothing. These companies also do not crowdfund their projects, which is what TS relies upon to get stuff off the ground. Saying that Railcar will always be small almost sounds like a backhanded insult. Steven @ Railcar started his company from nothing and grew his company to what it is now and he's a firm believer in keeping his stuff MiUSA. The difference between Railcar and most other companies is that he and his crew do everything in-house and do not rely on a third-party manufacturer. I get it, TS has grown by leaps and bounds but it was on the message of "proudly made in California."
     
  6. Bryanb55

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    Agreed and agreed. You can't build a company on a specific ethic and then change course, citing everything that is wrong with what you were doing.
     

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