Tattoos - a fashion statement?

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  1. Goblin

    Goblin Senior member

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    It's taken me a couple of years to finish my arms and a big chest piece. I'm slowly working on my belly and legs. Mostly traditional American -- I used to blog about traditional American tattooing at some length.

    When I decided to completely cover my arms, I was working at a very conservative civil defense (law) firm. I left shortly thereafter because it occurred to me that there was no way I could go through life giving a shit about what people like that thought of me. That was over two years ago. Leaving civil defense practice and moving into criminal defense was the best move I've ever made. It's worked out brilliantly. I've had a good run in the trial division of our state's busiest public defender office. I hang my own shingle on Monday, and am likely to have more work than I can handle.

    People's tattoos obviously give some insight into their characters. Other people's reactions to tattoos are just as instructive. When I see or hear someone passing judgment on some aspect of someone else's appearance, I firmly believe I learn more about the judger than I do the judged.
     
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    Has anyone see the recent RICK TA LIFE picture?

    He cut off his dreds and fully tattooed his head

    Only hardcore heads will know what i'm talking about.... 25 ta life
     
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    People's tattoos obviously give some insight into their characters.
    How so? Often to me it is the same as when I see the license plate "CR8TIVE".

    It means that is how the person WANTS to (desperately?) be perceived but it does not make the case. Especially since I have seen it or variants at least 10 times now and at least a few of those are copying someone else.

    Getting a tattoo means nothing other than you had the will and ability to get it.
     
  4. Gavin

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    How so? Often to me it is the same as when I see the license plate "CR8TIVE". It means that is how the person WANTS to (desperately?) be perceived but it does not make the case. Especially since I have seen it or variants at least 10 times now and at least a few of those are copying someone else. Getting a tattoo means nothing other than you had the will and ability to get it.
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    Not every tattoo has a "lot of personal meaning" of course...unless "I like butterflys" is what passes for that...but good tattoos can, and do, say a lot about the person.
    Not every tattoo. Some tattoos - good tattoos - can say a lot about a person if the proper planning, thought, and artistry has gone into the work. Not everyone chooses a tattoo from a book on their way home from the bar.
     
  5. Goblin

    Goblin Senior member

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    How so? Often to me it is the same as when I see the license plate "CR8TIVE".

    It means that is how the person WANTS to (desperately?) be perceived but it does not make the case. Especially since I have seen it or variants at least 10 times now and at least a few of those are copying someone else.

    Getting a tattoo means nothing other than you had the will and ability to get it.

    I wasn't saying that every tattoo has a deep meaning. They don't (and, I've argued elsewhere, there's no reason they should). But each does tell you something about the person in the same way that his clothing does, whether he's wearing Helmut Lang or high-rise Wal-Mart jeans in mom-blue.

    I'd be disingenuous if I claimed that I didn't care about the effect tattoos have on how people perceive me. Obviously I do. They have certain connotations and I'm sure everyone with tattoos is aware at some level of those connotations and wants to convey some of that. Same with one's clothing choices.

    But it's presumptuous to assume that someone with tattoos cares about how *everyone* perceives him, or is trying to send the message you believe he's striving for. I care very deeply how some people perceive me, and not at all about how some others think of me.

    I suspect that most people's motives are more nuanced than you're giving them credit for. Generalizations are useful but by no means exhaustive.
     
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    Has anyone see the recent RICK TA LIFE picture?

    He cut off his dreds and fully tattooed his head

    Only hardcore heads will know what i'm talking about.... 25 ta life


    Woah, I knew he was running out of space, but damn. Can you post a pic?
     
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  8. Get Smart

    Get Smart Don't Crink

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    damn, thats hawd-koh!
     
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    Not every tattoo. Some tattoos - good tattoos - can say a lot about a person if the proper planning, thought, and artistry has gone into the work.

    I agree with this.
     
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    I've always really wanted a tattoo, but I have no idea what I would get. I don't think I've lived enough life to have experiences put permanently on my body. Asian script is out of the question (I don't want a Chinese restaurant menu on my arm) as are tribal tattoo's (unless I become a tribesman) so I guess something I get would have to be pretty unique; otherwise, I'd never be happy with it.

    Best tattoo I ever saw was where it looked like skin was peeling back to reveal machine insides on someone. It looked so real, and had anime style (but realistic, if you get me) robotics draw on.
     
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    How totally weird... I've been thinking about getting inked for almost a decade or so now and it wasn't until the past few days that I just figured out what I wanted to get (oddly... it came to me in a dream). After mulling over the decision and getting ready to pull the trigger to contact a tat artist referred to me from a friend, I see this thread rise up from the annals of SF.

    Maybe someone can give me some input/advice either for or against. So my idea/epiphany was to get simply "Numquam ponenda est pluralitas sine necessitate" inscribed on the left side of my ribs in a script that essentially looks like handwriting by a quill pen dipped in an inkwell. It's not really a fashion-statement but more of a self-reflection thing for myself that I'll probably never show anyone other than my significant other (or if I go to the beach... or run down the street in a naked drunken stupor).

    For those of you unfamiliar, it's Ockham's original text for the idea behind Occam's Razor from the theological essays Quaestiones et decisiones in quattuor libros Sententiarum Petri Lombardi, not the latter interpretations of Occam's Razor as written several centuries later by other philosophers. The whole "plurality should not be posited without necessity" has always been a deeply meaningful foundation for my beliefs on religion/philosophy/and in particular science. Since I'm getting ready to get my Ph.D in a few months, I thought this phrase would hold particular meaning to mark the occasion (the whole basis for the scientific method and blah blah blah) as well being referrential to my past past formative years when I used to love pouring through classical, and later modern philosophy (French existentialism in particular).

    So any thoughts? Too pretentious? Will I come to regret this later down the line if I look like some wannabe cholo with something that vaguely resembles spanish running down my side?

    Or should I just say fuck it... fuck what other people think and pull the trigger already since I've already given it so much thought and (possibly misguided) justification?
     
  12. Get Smart

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    ^^ i don't think it's pretentious, and large tattoos that remain hidden are really cool in my book

    it's gonna hurt like a motherfucker tho (across the ribs), so be prepared to pay for it in blood sweat and tears, moreso than $

    Megan Fox has a similar tattoo...some text across her hips. perhaps that fact is going to make you rethink it now? heh

    btw, this being your first tattoo, just go for it. It's a long mile walk to the first, a short hop skip to the 2nd (and beyond)
     
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    My arms are mostly covered with tattoos. I like that they create an interesting contrast when I'm wearing short sleeves with one of my preppier trad-style outfits. If I want a more conservative look, I can wear long sleeves. So I guess there is a fashion or style angle in there.

    I also work in a creative field (film post-production) where I sometimes feel overdressed in jeans and a T-shirt. [​IMG] Shorts, sweats(!), and a baggy trade show freebie T-shirt is a common look for a lot of my co-workers.

    Most of my male friends have tattoos and it's pretty common where I live. My tattoos didn't have special personal meaning when I got them, but now they remind me of a particular time in my life.

    I don't regret having them, but I do feel that some people react to me differently because of them. I think some people might think I'm "weird" or "edgy" which is pretty funny because I'm really neither. I'm really just a regular dude. I guess that's just the way it is and I have to admit that I'm super judgmental about other people's tattoos. If I see someone with bad tattoos, I make all sorts of assumptions about their personality.

    As a side note, I love when I see really old guys, like in their 70's or 80's, with really faded old-school tats. They're always so hip in their sta-prest and old man short sleeve button-downs, or maybe a greek fisherman hat. I hope I'm that cool when I'm a senior citizen.
     
  14. robbie

    robbie Pleading Poverty

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    I am considering getting a tattoo as opposed to a wedding ring. Not only can a tattoo not be taken off, lost, stolen, etc... they are less expensive.
     
  15. starcrash

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    ^^^
    Eek! Don't do it.

    a. Pam & Tommy Lee did it
    b. Hand, face, and neck tattoos seriously freak people out and it's not like you can wear gloves at job interviews.
    c. It'll hurt like hell.
    d. What if you don't stay married?
     

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