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Target Blazer..Hella cheap and pretty damn good

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Get Smart, Apr 7, 2006.

  1. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Doesn't fusing degrade (relatively) rapidly, and fused garments along with it? Or is that a thing of the past?

    Of the past. Fusing technology has come a long way in the past two or so decades. Yes, cheap fused garments exist (I know a place where you can get 2 suits which complementary shirts and ties for each, for $150 - they are not nice), but so do very good ones. Okay, I put in the part about really cheap suit because this is still the streetwear part of the forum.
     
  2. Brian SD

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    There are tons of nice fused jackets. However, in my experience, canvassed fits noticeably better. It just looks better from all angles. That doesnt dissuade me from buying fused Costume National stuff though. [​IMG]
     
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    Parker Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    e-gads! I think that blazer has got Napoli-tan shoulders. I've got an unconstucted Vestimenta jacket with almost the same silouhette. And wear it a lot. Not super hot on the fishmouth lapels, but hey, for thirty-four-ninety-nine, I may have to drop by Tar-ghay this weekend.
     
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    Production of fused garments requires either tremendous heat or enormous pressure. Garment-related fusion results in the creation and dissipation of energy via Styleforum discussion threads.

    So if I get charcoal and put that in the SuperDuperJacketFusionPress I can make diamonds? Or is the pressure so much that will make the whole machine explode?
     
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    Just remember the H&M rule: It doesn't matter if it falls apart after a year if you're only going to wear it for 3 months.
     
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  7. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    Vented?


    single
     
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    (I know a place where you can get 2 suits which complementary shirts and ties for each, for $150 - they are not nice)

    dude, downtown LA... $99 suit. free tie, shirt AND socks. BAM
    [​IMG]
     
  9. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    dude, downtown LA... $99 suit. free tie, shirt AND socks. BAM
    [​IMG]


    Yeah, I know, in the garment district (did not know about the socks though). But I wanted someone to ask me for one, and I could have made a quick $50. Thanks a lot [​IMG]
     
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    Is there a way to order Uniqlo?
     
  12. Get Smart

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    That's consider a jacket of short length? Doesn't look like it on the photo. This one is another good alternative. and it has working button holes as well. http://www.uniqlo.com/Items/u49281/image/u49281.jpg
    that looks cool too. yea mine is on the shorter side....the bottom of the body hem is about even with the sleeves. It does look a bit longer on the website. It could be becasue I am wearing a small so it was cut shorter to accomodate a shorter person, but I'm not *that* short (5'10-5'11 on a good posture day) so it probably ends up looking shorter on me.
     
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    dude, downtown LA... $99 suit. free tie, shirt AND socks. BAM
    [​IMG]


    They exist here too. It's like $200 for two suits and all the accessories except shoes. Problem is you cant get them with less than 5 buttons and normal lapels or at a regular length. [​IMG]
     
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    Problem is you cant get them with less than 5 buttons and normal lapels or at a regular length. [​IMG]

    and they're fused. [​IMG]
     
  15. SGladwell

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    I saw that blazer over the weekend. At $35 and machine washable with a recommendation it would've been hard not to! Also, my wardrobe has a decided imbalance of wintery sportcoats to summery ones.

    I thought the construction, for the money especially, was pretty decent. I've seen unconstructed cotton summer sportcoats from Prada and others that were made about as well, though two of the ones I saw had clear pulling from where the spare buttons were attached so I would snip those off if I were you. It seems to me that what you guys are calling short is the normal length for my body. I'm fairly short waisted and long legged, 6'1" with a 34" inseam.

    Alas, disregarding price it was not for me. The large was too big and the medium pulled too much when I buttoned it. I already have a blue (albeit windowpaned) cotton barrel-shaped sportcoat from Varvatos. So not for me, though I can see why it would appeal to others. If Target does more of this kind of stuff, they could be serious competition for H&M and others.

    *I don't buy that good fused stuff can be made, simply because I haven't seen any. My closet has a few "high end" (Armani Collezioni, Zegna Soft, Paul Smith London, John Varvatos, Burberry London, Rene Lezard) jackets in it that are fused, and there's such a clear difference between putting one of them on and putting on a nice canvassed jacket. Also, isn't Costume National stuff all full-canvas? My only CN garment, a black sportcoat, wore out before I knew the difference because I wore it almost every day for 18 months.
     
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    Actually, fusing technology has gotten to the point where very good fused garments can be made. As with many things, there is no unambiguous answer. Whether a fused garments looks and feels cheap and shoddy or not depends to a large degree on the material used, and in nearly all cases, "half canvassing" which was developed in response to the trendiness and perceived superiority of "canvassed suits", is less desirable than a fully fused suit. I wrote a longer piece about this that was lost during the crash, but the gist of it was that for heavier, winter-weight, fabrics, whether the garment is fused or not is often irrelevant, while for a lighter weight fabric, full canvassing is most desirable, and half canvassing least, because the fused parts, especially at the quarters, "pull" at the rest of the fabric. Moreover, whether a jacket is fused or canvassed matters not one bit unless the quality of the cloth itself is good - something that has nothing whatsoever to do with the count (e.g. a Super 120 is not necessarily superior in *any* way to a Super 100).


    How do I tell if a suit is fused?
     
  17. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    How do I tell if a suit is fused?

    Hey dude, there are about a million threads on this in the Mens Clothing forum. A quick search should turn them up... Essentially, by touch.
     
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