Tankless Water Heaters

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by johnapril

I'd like to hear what he says. Also, have you discussed triple-paned windows with him?

We're just going double paned. We are paying for an increased R rating though.

 

[johnapril]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

We're just going double paned. We are paying for an increased R rating though.

I was just wondering if anyone in the US was considering triples. I've seen them used in some modern EU buildings.

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by johnapril

I was just wondering if anyone in the US was considering triples. I've seen them used in some modern EU buildings.

They are used. They seem to be great for fixed panes, not so much for functional windows. I have yet to find any attractive choices with triple paned, functional windows, that are the proper size for my proposed window openings. Some of the smaller ones, like our various rows of clerestory windows, but that's it.

 

[edmorel]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

We're just going double paned. We are paying for an increased R rating though.

I just went with Anderson new construction's over Pella's replacements, how'd I do? The house is alot quiter when they are closed and they seem to do their job well but that may be me trying to justify the cost.

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by edmorel

I just went with Anderson new construction's over Pella's replacements, how'd I do? The house is alot quiter when they are closed and they seem to do their job well but that may be me trying to justify the cost.

I honestly don't know what windows we're going with yet. I like the thought of extra quiet (it's part of why we're going for the increased R value in the overall house) but we're pretty isolated as it is, so expect a fair amount of quiet. We're going to have some major walls of windows, so for us, the look is just as important as the function.

 

[edmorel]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

I honestly don't know what windows we're going with yet. I like the thought of extra quiet (it's part of why we're going for the increased R value in the overall house) but we're pretty isolated as it is, so expect a fair amount of quiet. We're going to have some major walls of windows, so for us, the look is just as important as the function.

you sound like a liberal, massaging the answer and not really saying anything.

 

[Manton]

We got some Anderson windows (sadly, not for the entire house). Supposedly, the only better window widely sold in the US is Marvin, and they are MUCH more expensive, like 3x on average.

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by edmorel

you sound like a liberal, massaging the answer and not really saying anything.

Sorry, I should have been more clear.

Screw off, I don't care what you do in your unimportant life.

Just kidding. Sort of. No really, just kidding.

Edit: Now that I see you and Manton have them though, I'll give Anderson a close look when it comes window choosing time.

 

[edmorel]

Originally Posted by Manton

We got some Anderson windows (sadly, not for the entire house). Supposedly, the only better window widely sold in the US is Marvin, and they are MUCH more expensive, like 3x on average.

you got the wood in the inside? did you stain it?

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by edmorel

you got the wood in the inside? did you stain it?

Wood inside, clad outside. We painted ours white.

 

[otc]

We went with pella over the anderson renewal replacements a few years ago. I can't remember why, but I feel like the renewals were an inferior product (this was a while ago though)

Replaced everythin, mostly trading out double hung windows with casements (although there were a few original casements and there were two double hung windows that my parents kept double hung).

They have done quite well.

 

[visionology]

Harvey also makes great windows.

 

[tiecollector]

Talking about windows now? I just redid my whole house in Mercer vinyl double-panes. Got a great deal and I get the full tax rebate next year. Wood looks nice but these look better than anyone else's in the neighborhood.

 

[freshcutgrass]

My builder is pushing these. He says we'll save money in the long run, and given the minerality of our local water, will have less problems, as you don't have to repeatedly heat the same water. He assures me we'll never notice the difference between that and a nice 50 gal traditional style. It'll be months before I pursue much more detail on that, but I'll post when I laern more.

Have you given any more thought to installing a geoexchange system for your new build? Having a simple desuperheater on the unit will provide pre-heated domestic hot water, cutting your hot water bill about in half, or install a separate water-to-water unit to provide all your hot water. With the right tanks sizes, you will never run out of hot water.

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by freshcutgrass

Have you given any more thought to installing a geoexchange system for your new build? Having a simple desuperheater on the unit will provide pre-heated domestic hot water, cutting your hot water bill about in half, or install a separate water-to-water unit to provide all your hot water. With the right tanks sizes, you will never run out of hot water.

What, if any, does highly mineralized local water do to those systems?