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gettoasty

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Joytropics you’re not changing anyone’s mind except the minority who took the same path as you and want to hear what they feel. From my observations such people are constantly seeking validation from others.

There seems to be a lack of critical thinking as well (I wonder where someone can go to learn and practice it over and over again?) And sure you can listen to podcasts, watch YT, read a lot of self-improvement books but people are fallible and the pitfall is thinking by listening and reading you've some how magically gained a new skill.

Additionally, you have such a radical way of thinking that puts you in an unfavorable position to change even if proven wrong. How do you learn then? There is a fine line between being critical and cynical.

Also, it is hard to take anyone seriously that has to resort to stereotyping others. This seems to be a ever growing theme of internet culture I find unhealthy especially when there are national movements looking to drive change. And such internet culture develops individuals who take up a polarizing position, hoping for sensationalism to move their agenda whether personal or party beliefs. However, anyone with a modicum of post-secondary education should be able to sift through the text and question what is reasonable and unreasonable.
 

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I do wonder if the minimum wage, and lack of indexing or adjusting based on inflation, depress wages overall.

I don't think this chart proves or disproves anything, but I found this in replying to JT.

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Look, I know that most of the people in this thread went to school in the 50s or whatever, but the era of paying for your tuition as a soda jerk down at the pharmacy... driving your Model T to the sock hop... and necking with your best gal at the homecoming game is over.

Lulz. I've been posting here for years how I'll be paying my student loans off until I'm in my 60s. Best investment I ever made. Your head is so far up your ass you can see daylight out of your mouth.
 

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Maybe I should’ve skipped school and applied to the lucrative career of a correctional facility officer.
 

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I've said this a million times, but I'm a firm believer in the benefits of a liberal education and I don't see a BA as being just some sort of career prep program.

I'd be totally ok paying for my own kid's school even if there wasn't a clear ROI on future income and the only real benefits were for life fulfillment, being a better citizen, and having more options in life (even if the payscales are similar).
 

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Maybe I should’ve skipped school and applied to the lucrative career of a correctional facility officer.

Don't worry, I think you might still be able to pass your State Farm exam: I don't think they dock you points for having a college degree.
 

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The world is changing, boomers!

I get that your views made sense in a pre-internet, pre-women's suffrage era, but to put it in terms you might understand:

"The times, they are-a-changing"

And if 2020 is any indication those changes are speeding up like crazy.
 

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The world is changing, boomers!

I get that your views made sense in a pre-internet, pre-women's suffrage era, but to put it in terms you might understand:

"The times, they are-a-changing"

And if 2020 is any indication those changes are speeding up like crazy.

Tell us how dead people are dead and people that aren't dead aren't dead. Loving your insights.
 

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Growing up Indian - getting into a good school was like the only thing my parents cared about. I do think it gave me a bit of tunnel vision as to what college was really about and what I would gain from it.

I would certainly hope my kids would go to college, but I don't think I'd push them to it if they felt it wasn't right for them, and will probably advocate that they take a gap year (or two or three) so they can appreciate the experience a bit more.

That being said, I have 2 "strong" names on my resume, and I'm 100% sure I wouldn't be where I am today career-wise without those names on my resume. Plus I learned SO MUCH about the world and other communities while at school,which is something you can't really value enough. Made me realize the old adage about how kids become super progressive (generally) when they go to school and it's like, yeah duh, that's what happens when you start immersing yourself with other groups of people outside of the bubble you grew up in.
 

venividivicibj

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The world is changing, boomers!

I get that your views made sense in a pre-internet, pre-women's suffrage era, but to put it in terms you might understand:

"The times, they are-a-changing"

And if 2020 is any indication those changes are speeding up like crazy.
Again, zero facts
 
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The no college argument is survivorship bias similar to when a billionaire says everyone should be an entrepreneur. For every millionaire car salesman, there are tons also making $30K. Hey, you can save $1M over a lifetime on $30K a year but you have to save a ton and not blow up your investments.

Actually graduating college is better than going half assed or not graduating. The same can be said to actually trying to be a good car salesman, good carpet cleaner, or getting an IT business off the ground. You can't learn motivation and drive from a book.
 

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